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yeah

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welcome back we got the big daddy going

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tonight on calling all beings how's it

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going everybody I'm your host DJ welcome

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back to calling all beings and we about

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to get into it with two of the Premier

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original gangsters from the IC tonight

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to educate regulate all truth dilate

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right come on Nathan

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but before we get into any of that let's

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introduce my amazing uh co-creators and

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collaborators here on cab uh the man

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you're seeing with the glasses who

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somebody just said you know I mean it's

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so good to see you so adorable but I

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don't think it's money now

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it's the co-conspirita and fun

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interesting uh and Illuminating uh talk

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about the phenomenon money Nathan

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hey it's great to be here uh great to

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see all of you very excited to have this

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conversation this evening I welcome

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everybody who's in the in the audience

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uh viewing the show

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let's get into it all right then but

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before we do that we got the the center

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the Keystone of the joint the researcher

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the one who gives us a little bit of

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legitimacy up in here and that is a

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study of UAP Dems yes I'm just glad that

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Jules is here to make sure that we're

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here uh because I'll tell you what

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myself and uh and our other co-hosts

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here Leah Primetime are definitely not

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the adults in this joint what's up Prime

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Time hi DJ Just Another Day in Paradise

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do you have like a box of wine somewhere

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like where it's just got like an extra

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amount you could just you know it's got

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a couple liters worth of that do you

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have a box of wine anywhere within yeah

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dude about six boxes of frenzy and I

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just rolled my chair over and stick my

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head under the spigot

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that's my own girl right there I know

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you usually are reading this young lady

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in the chat where she brings positivity

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everywhere she goes uh but tonight uh

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since we're not having a chat guess what

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she decided to jump in this joint and uh

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that is our lovely chat host of The

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Jewel of of the Nile what's going on

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homegirl

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hey Darlings I'm happy to be here and do

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all right man I got you

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um all right before we go any further uh

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we're gonna have a a statement from our

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brother money Nason so go ahead and make

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yourself larger Nathan and then we'll

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we'll bring in on our guests of honor

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who we're super excited to speak with

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this evening

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awesome uh all right well I've never

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done an opening statement like this on

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our show before but I'd like to welcome

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everyone to calling all beings and for

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those of you who may not have watched

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our show before we occasionally do what

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we affectionately call a fireside chat

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which is just a cozy way of saying that

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we're hosting an open-ended round robin

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type conversation where each panelist

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has an opportunity to introduce a topic

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of their choice regardless of the show

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or the guests we Endeavor to host

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discussions which are fun serious silly

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and thought provoking cab has never been

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a show about gotcha questions we have

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disabled the live chat so that we can

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all focus on tonight's content and I'm

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fostering a meaningful dialogue cab is

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not monetized in any way nor do we

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begrudge shows which are no matter your

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perspective we tend to believe that

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valuing the integrity and dignity of our

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fellow humans is more important than

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scoring points or clicks or likes that

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said we ask for your like if you are

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open to giving it and believe we have

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earned it

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now there has been a great deal of talk

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lately about imminent disclosure and all

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that entails it's fun to speculate on a

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subject which many of us spend a great

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deal of time and energy contemplating

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every day whether you're simply UFO

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curious a Believer an experiencer or an

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Ardent skeptic we should be able to

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agree that the conversation can be made

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better when we enter into good faith

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discussion and work together toward

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understanding in short if the

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conversation is worth having it is

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worthy of our best efforts

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lastly I personally find it very

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important to make space for those who

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have the courage to share their

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phenomenal experiences as well as their

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interpretation of them interpretation is

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a funny thing not a static picture but

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rather an evolving process of meaning

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making shaped by every moment

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interaction and new experience at cab we

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welcome the sharing of these experiences

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and are eager to listen however as a

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larger Community we often aren't

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particularly great at listening but we

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believe that listening is an exercise in

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honoring our fellow human it is an act

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of compassion a sacrament of presence

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so this evening that's what we'll do as

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we welcome both John and Anjali to share

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a conversation with all of us we are so

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grateful for their time and willingness

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to speak we are also deeply grateful for

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those of you who have stopped by to

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watch and listen in even if only for a

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little while

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the Fireside chap again

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I love this guy right here and I love to

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be a part of this show

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um so we are honored to have these two

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guests on tonight our first guest uh our

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guest of honor is a veteran of the USAF

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a former Analyst at the DIA a respected

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member of the IC an experiencer of the

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phenomenon a citizen of the world and a

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proliferator of love and light

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everywhere she goes party people put

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them together for my homegirl Anjali

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Schultz yeah

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gonna get an A man amen amen for Anjali

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amen our other special guest is a

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veteran of the United States Navy a

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retired CIA officer a well-read and

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learned analyst also a citizen of the

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world who has helped contextualize the

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operations of the U.S government for

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civilians who we toil away on Twitter

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and people just don't understand what

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they're listening to and how to

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interpret what the government is doing

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is saying and is not saying

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um this gentleman is also a he's a

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blessing to the community like Anjali

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and also a citizen of the world so put

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them together from Mom yeah Mr John

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cheers

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doing it too you can't see but I'm doing

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it so the way I know you're putting them

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together Debs we love you

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um so uh what we wanted the way we

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wanted to start this off tonight is um

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there's interesting things that uh John

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and Anjali had to discuss and and I'm

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gonna get out the way so you got to and

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people like yeah damn I'm glad man get

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yourself out of the way and let these

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two talk so without further Ado Mr

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I wanted to be with Anjali uh because

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we've had private conversations before

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and we've texted each other emailed each

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other but we've never been uh on form on

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the record together on any kind of

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and I know uh in the beginning a lot of

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people question anjali's background I

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did not because I knew that she was part

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of the intelligence Community just the

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way she presented herself and some of

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the terminology she used

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um I know recently uh I stated that uh

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interview by members of the UAP task

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force and I believe Ted McMillan reached

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out to Jake's uh Jay Stratton and Jay

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Stratton made the statement uh

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unequivocal statement that

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officially or unofficially interviewed

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Anjali and uh when I read that I go okay

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Jay we need to straighten out the

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records because I know what you really

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at least bridge that subject first and

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foremost and so with Anjali I was just

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wanted to know in your own words what

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was your experience like um someone or

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is that isn't that correct

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the Lincoln Memorial on in August of

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2021 at the presser I was interviewed by

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a lady and a gentleman I had to really

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um to recollect that because I was in I

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I spoke to so many people that day and I

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wasn't keeping my own personal recording

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of what was happening around me and so I

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don't have a complete picture of all of

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the people that I spoke to that day

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um but it was previously mentioned on

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um the guy networked television

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um show Cosmic Disclosure by Richard

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Doty who is a self-confessed prior

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disinformation

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intelligence officer uh he had he said

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on that show that I was interviewed by

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um by two official people that day and

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and he was correct and I just want to

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set that straight because on that show

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um I I was kind of taken aback I didn't

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recollect it very well I had a lot of

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other directions that my mind was going

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um I followed up on that and yes that is

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correct so as far as my my other contact

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associated with the UAP task force and

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taking interviews and pres and

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presenting those interviews to them

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um I had a gentleman who contacted me

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um and through him he brought in two

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other friends I had multiple encounters

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with the first gentleman

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by encounters I mean

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phone calls and zoom conversations

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and then he brought in a couple of

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friends and they actually they were

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interested in

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um they asked a lot of questions of the

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beings

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and I gave him the best interpretation

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and answers that I could that day it was

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it was really kind of a wild experience

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the experience the the day that I had

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all three gentlemen

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um that that I spoke with

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because over the course of the three of

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easily 24 hours of contact

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um with the these three gentlemen in one

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way or the other

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um regarding my experiences with the

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beings and and

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um lifelong experiences not just what

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happened in the Mojave

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um although they were very interested in

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um they uh one of the questions that I

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thought was an interesting question was

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um do you know if if the tunnel is still

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there

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um and I said yes you know the tunnel is

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still there

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um and uh

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and two of the gentlemen

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asked if they could be members of of the

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Expedition team and be part of that that

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collection team just be present and

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um and I didn't ask a lot of other

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questions about it my what I said to

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them was that at the time my only

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requirement was that no one came armed

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um you know that we that nobody came

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with any kinds of weapons or any kinds

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of thoughts of the need or the desire

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for a weapon

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um that they were going to have to leave

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that that aside so

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um we had contact for a number of months

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several months and um

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so it happened and uh you know I I'm

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beyond the point of really caring what

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the public says because every time

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someone says you know that that I wasn't

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interviewed and or that I'm not who I

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said I was or just whatever other kinds

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of things they're saying it just it's

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rolling right off of my back at this

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point because uh I

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I am at the center of of my experience

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and and I'm the only one who can put

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all of those pieces and all of the

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contacts that I've had from across the

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IC or across social media and and from

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across other types of messages

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and the the types of beings who may be

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um communicating

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they may be there there's a chance that

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that humans have developed this ability

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um and I'm just unaware of it there is

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um I have absolute faith that there are

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higher beings and by higher I mean that

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their consciousnesses are appear to be

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much more advanced um older they appear

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to have a higher perspective than we do

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um kind of like they can look down and

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see inside the entire house at once you

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know where we have to go from room to

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room to room they don't have to they

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could whole whole house they can see it

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at once

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um and that doesn't mean omnipresence

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and that doesn't mean omniscience

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um it means that we have we have a

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complicated ecosystem

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and I have

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um personally and professionally now I

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have reached out through the icy

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Community to contact a former colleague

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peer mentor and absolute hero of mine

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her name is Nicole and

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um I think that anyone who has worked

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with me previously who would be watching

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will know who I'm talking about and

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um I am in need of Cole Nicole's

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assistance if she could reach out to me

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um it's it's about time that uh we

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finished that lesson we started

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so

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thanks very much Anjali and let me

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interject here

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um some background information

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so show of hands to those who are on

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camera

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you heard about the UAP task force and

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here's the task force set up by the

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Senate select committee on intelligence

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and also the United States Navy through

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the Office of Naval

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intelligence it is the first announced

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task force since

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the Project Blue Book under the Air

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Force so if you have this task force

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studying this very important phenomenon

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how many people would you dedicate to

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this task for sure hands how many just

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or you can say out out loud

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you know there would have to be you know

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50 or so people I would think yeah I'd

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say dozens dozens yeah Leia are you

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pretty much

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uh between 50 and 100 minimum 100 Jewels

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so I

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[Music]

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Jules if you type it in the chat we'll

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read it off for you because we didn't

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hear you

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let's just type it

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so well okay I got I got the gist of it

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uh anywhere from 50 to 100. all right I

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am now going to reveal for the first

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that's it

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so you know one member of the task force

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Jay Stratton he was the commander of the

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task force as they call it and of course

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you know it's a Navy thing right so you

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have to have commanders so he's the

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commander of the task force and we also

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know one other individual right who came

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forward and that's Dr Travis Taylor

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there's two and they were like a couple

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of other people on this task force

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that's it

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so what Jay Stratton meant to say is

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this

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no member of the UAP task force his

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direct reports and DJ you your Air Force

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guy you know what a direct report is is

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someone you supervise personally and

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you're responsible for writing their

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performance evaluation so no member of

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the task force all three of my guys that

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I was responsible for as the career

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service officer I was responsible for

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their promotions and their Career

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Development so forth and so on November

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interviewed Anjali that's three people

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now who did interview Anjali so in order

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for the small tiny task force the first

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kind of any kind of entity within the US

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government since uh Project Blue Book to

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do anything

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it had to do something which DJ you know

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very familiar these words it's called

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enter agency Outreach

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the interagency is the other agencies

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you know for example you have the CIA

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the DIA the NSA you know the alphabet

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soup the major

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organizations of the intelligence

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Community they relied on Outreach in

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order to get any work done

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so it's the Outreach to the task force

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that interviewed Anjali and a member of

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that task force was cognizant of the

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interview taking place

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and in fact

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the interagency continued to interact

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with the task force and by when the

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actual interview occurred uh Jay

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Stratton was no longer commander of the

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task force but he kept into the email

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Loop so he knew what was going on

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and so

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they would not have reached out to

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Anjali unless something was validated

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and that is the fact that she is an

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intelligence Community officer and how

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does one tell if another member is an

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intelligence Community officer well

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first of all there's something called

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and in the old days it was called jpas J

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pass it stood for joint personnel

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I believe stands for joint Personnel

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adjudication system

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and if you're in the dod side your name

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is going to be in there as having a top

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secret clearance and it will have all

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the compartments that you have been read

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into on my end scattered castles and

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civilian side it's called Uh the same

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thing it's called scattered castles and

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it has the same information has my name

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and all of the compartments I was read

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into

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they would not have reached out to

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Anjali and thus they knew that she

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wasn't someone off the street who's an

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experiencer because there are many many

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many experiencers as Deb would tell you

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now there are many many experiencers out

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there and all of us probably are

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experiences as well but she was an

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experiencer who happened to be a member

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of the intelligence community

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and that's what got their attention

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and secondly when she talks about beings

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if they thought that she was somewhat

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disturbed because she talked about these

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beings they would not have contacted her

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because they know that these beings are

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real they know that there is a presence

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of these other non-humans on the planet

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and thank you Dr Gary Nolan because he

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said the same thing

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is known

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within the intelligence community so it

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was the Outreach people

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with the cognizance of the UAP task

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force who reached out to Anjali and they

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may not identify themselves by true

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affiliation because they were Undercover

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and what does that mean that means that

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your affiliation with the IC has to be

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protected

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and what is the two agencies that can do

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that well one is Dia

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because they have a defense Human

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Service they too have human officers

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collecting human intelligence so they

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have to be undercover and what's the

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other agency that's been doing it since

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1947. my guys home office CIA

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so it was at that level of the

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intelligence community that reached out

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to Anjali because they knew she was

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genuine they found her information

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in the appropriate personnel databases

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to verify that she had the clearances

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that she said she had and then thirdly

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and most importantly they knew that her

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contact experiences were real because

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they knew about the contact experiences

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that others have had even within the

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intelligence community

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and I'll just name one person who's come

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out

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my buddy at CIA Jim Simi van who stated

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that yo yes he's he's had these contact

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experiences that's right and I'm sure

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um come later this year you'll hear more

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about Intelligence Officers with contact

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experiences so I just want to let the

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set the record straight yes Jay is right

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that no member of the UAP task force

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interviewed Anjali

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the other three people on the task force

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they didn't interview Anjali but the

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Outreach people did the interagency

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Outreach people did with the full

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cognizance of the member members of the

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task force

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and so let let the record stand that

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this is what actually happened and so if

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you disbelieve me or disbelieve Anjali

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you're fine I'm not here to convince you

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one way or the other you can believe

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anything you want you can believe what

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other people in the government who you

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think belong to the government tell you

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that's fine because uh toward the end of

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this year as uh Science Bob McGuire

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stated at the spaced out radio uh Vegas

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party and as uh Dr Nolan stated you know

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something is going to occur some event

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will occur it's the disclosure we all

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have been waiting for and it all will be

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laid out

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so I just want to say that hey John I'd

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like to interject right now that the

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significance of people like yourself

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Anjali Jim semi van coming out and

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talking about this amongst the IC

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Community is akin to Dave fraver coming

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out and and people

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um in in the aviation Community saying

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man if this you know youngest airwing

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commander in the Navy Top Gun graduate

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Dave fraver and Alex Dietrich and Chad

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Chad Underwood and help me Ryan Graves

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if they can come and talk about it then

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that means I can talk about it that's

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the significance of you guys coming out

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I think is that your colleagues are

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going to have a that have been holding

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this inside uh are going to have a sigh

557
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:54,600
of relief about it in my opinion

558
00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:57,120
um also I want to say uh regarding

559
00:25:01,789 --> 00:24:59,039
something that Anjali said I want to say

560
00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:01,799
that the fact that the phenomenon is

561
00:25:06,590 --> 00:25:04,380
able to have this sort of top-down view

562
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:06,600
of the entire house I would really

563
00:25:11,570 --> 00:25:08,400
appreciate shape that because I've lost

564
00:25:14,090 --> 00:25:11,580
both spare set of car keys and with that

565
00:25:15,529 --> 00:25:14,100
ability like I you know what I mean like

566
00:25:17,630 --> 00:25:15,539
at the I could see the whole house at

567
00:25:19,130 --> 00:25:17,640
once oh there they are and I keep them

568
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:19,140
in this little Ziploc bag case you're

569
00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:20,400
out in the woods and it you know it

570
00:25:23,930 --> 00:25:21,840
starts raining you know your car keys

571
00:25:25,549 --> 00:25:23,940
are still going to work so uh I would

572
00:25:26,990 --> 00:25:25,559
love to have that ability actually I

573
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:27,000
don't know

574
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:30,480
anyways Branson

575
00:25:35,330 --> 00:25:33,360
so did you do um so where Linda was

576
00:25:36,529 --> 00:25:35,340
trying to come in and ask a question to

577
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:36,539
you guys I don't know if she's going to

578
00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:38,640
make it in or not but uh would you uh

579
00:25:42,289 --> 00:25:40,080
Anjali would you like to say something

580
00:25:44,810 --> 00:25:42,299
about what John said or would you like

581
00:25:47,450 --> 00:25:44,820
to continue that discussion well I would

582
00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:47,460
just I would like to say

583
00:25:53,690 --> 00:25:49,679
um just to follow up on that but

584
00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:53,700
one of the the neatest parts of the

585
00:25:59,450 --> 00:25:56,400
interview experience with me

586
00:26:02,690 --> 00:25:59,460
um and the three gentlemen was not only

587
00:26:05,570 --> 00:26:02,700
just how incredibly respectful and

588
00:26:09,890 --> 00:26:05,580
informed they were uh

589
00:26:12,769 --> 00:26:09,900
and curious very curious but they were

590
00:26:16,250 --> 00:26:12,779
also affirming and validating quite

591
00:26:19,310 --> 00:26:16,260
often they would say things such as

592
00:26:21,289 --> 00:26:19,320
um we have we have other sources who

593
00:26:23,330 --> 00:26:21,299
also tell us that and then sometimes

594
00:26:27,649 --> 00:26:23,340
they'd raise their eyes and say oh yeah

595
00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:27,659
we have other sources that say that and

596
00:26:32,750 --> 00:26:30,960
um and I understood you know that that

597
00:26:34,490 --> 00:26:32,760
this was something that they were that

598
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:34,500
they were heavily invested in and I

599
00:26:39,169 --> 00:26:38,400
appreciate I appreciate their time and

600
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:39,179
um

601
00:26:48,049 --> 00:26:43,440
I think that we had a and have a good

602
00:26:50,690 --> 00:26:48,059
relationship and um yeah I enjoy working

603
00:26:52,610 --> 00:26:50,700
with others I have

604
00:26:58,010 --> 00:26:52,620
um

605
00:27:01,610 --> 00:26:58,020
I I I enjoy working with

606
00:27:05,630 --> 00:27:01,620
with folks that typically others would

607
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:05,640
shy away from I guess you know

608
00:27:09,649 --> 00:27:08,400
um I

609
00:27:13,310 --> 00:27:09,659
um

610
00:27:15,470 --> 00:27:13,320
I'm not hesitant at all in this

611
00:27:20,510 --> 00:27:15,480
experience that I'm having

612
00:27:23,390 --> 00:27:20,520
and I I think I made that fairly well

613
00:27:26,510 --> 00:27:23,400
known publicly

614
00:27:29,390 --> 00:27:26,520
um there have been some you know some

615
00:27:32,690 --> 00:27:29,400
developments and and some redirections

616
00:27:35,149 --> 00:27:32,700
um and I I can acknowledge that

617
00:27:37,730 --> 00:27:35,159
um I can't wait for the other

618
00:27:39,490 --> 00:27:37,740
experiencers from the IC to come forward

619
00:27:42,649 --> 00:27:39,500
and help you understand

620
00:27:49,370 --> 00:27:42,659
why what I said

621
00:27:52,010 --> 00:27:49,380
um is can be both true to to me and

622
00:27:55,789 --> 00:27:52,020
um I could have been physically inside

623
00:27:58,430 --> 00:27:55,799
of another place and at the same time

624
00:28:00,710 --> 00:27:58,440
the other people that I was with do not

625
00:28:01,909 --> 00:28:00,720
experience that

626
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:01,919
um it's

627
00:28:09,409 --> 00:28:06,480
it's a part of the phenomena I I can't

628
00:28:10,909 --> 00:28:09,419
understand it I can explain to you

629
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:10,919
what

630
00:28:18,909 --> 00:28:16,799
uh I you know I can I can try to

631
00:28:21,470 --> 00:28:18,919
interpret that to the best of my ability

632
00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:21,480
and always with the knowledge of a

633
00:28:25,490 --> 00:28:24,179
couple of things number one that you

634
00:28:28,610 --> 00:28:25,500
know that I became an intelligence

635
00:28:30,169 --> 00:28:28,620
officer is isn't that kind of odd and

636
00:28:33,710 --> 00:28:30,179
that I was that I was working at

637
00:28:35,210 --> 00:28:33,720
Pentagon isn't that even otter and uh

638
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:35,220
you know and that I had this contact

639
00:28:39,769 --> 00:28:37,200
after

640
00:28:42,110 --> 00:28:39,779
um you know doing Intel work for the

641
00:28:43,490 --> 00:28:42,120
USMC I keep looking at the desert as if

642
00:28:46,370 --> 00:28:43,500
you can see

643
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:46,380
I am I'm literally looking West I don't

644
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:53,570
I'm trying to show you the desert uh and

645
00:28:58,010 --> 00:28:55,919
um I I completely lost my train of

646
00:29:01,190 --> 00:28:58,020
thought now if someone wants me back on

647
00:29:03,049 --> 00:29:01,200
it okay I I mean my my question for you

648
00:29:05,450 --> 00:29:03,059
is going to be and I'll ask John if we

649
00:29:07,070 --> 00:29:05,460
could uh turn it over to Nathan and get

650
00:29:09,649 --> 00:29:07,080
the cabbies with some initial questions

651
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:09,659
for you guys but during any of these

652
00:29:13,850 --> 00:29:11,760
meetings with the intelligence officials

653
00:29:16,490 --> 00:29:13,860
did anybody ask you for example what

654
00:29:20,269 --> 00:29:16,500
kind of conditioner that you use

655
00:29:23,810 --> 00:29:20,279
what kind of condition or I yes yes

656
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:23,820
um no no okay that would have been my

657
00:29:30,350 --> 00:29:28,320
first question Nathan uh same brand hey

658
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:30,360
um DJ it's the same brand you and I use

659
00:29:35,570 --> 00:29:32,880
oh yeah yeah

660
00:29:37,250 --> 00:29:35,580
all right yeah me and me and uh me and

661
00:29:40,370 --> 00:29:37,260
John are using prel I think I can't

662
00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:40,380
remember uh but yeah I know right but uh

663
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:42,240
no it is interesting though that that

664
00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:44,159
people spoke with you and maybe it

665
00:29:48,889 --> 00:29:46,260
wasn't those three guys that are on that

666
00:29:50,930 --> 00:29:48,899
staff but obviously uh somebody did

667
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:50,940
speak with Anjali and they would be very

668
00:29:55,610 --> 00:29:53,279
interested to hear what she has to say

669
00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:55,620
given the nature of her experience and

670
00:30:00,289 --> 00:29:57,840
also the nature of her background the

671
00:30:02,450 --> 00:30:00,299
seriousness of it John can I give it

672
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:02,460
over to Nathan to get a get a question

673
00:30:08,510 --> 00:30:05,279
uh sure I just want to inject one thing

674
00:30:10,490 --> 00:30:08,520
please do that people might think um Oh

675
00:30:11,570 --> 00:30:10,500
I thought it was illegal to CIA to

676
00:30:14,210 --> 00:30:11,580
contact

677
00:30:16,909 --> 00:30:14,220
UM U.S citizens or anybody

678
00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:16,919
um no uh not if you're a member of the

679
00:30:22,130 --> 00:30:18,960
intelligence Community right you're

680
00:30:23,389 --> 00:30:22,140
contacting a colleague not a U.S citizen

681
00:30:24,830 --> 00:30:23,399
off the street

682
00:30:26,090 --> 00:30:24,840
so

683
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:26,100
um I just want to make that plain

684
00:30:30,649 --> 00:30:27,360
because I'm sure some people are

685
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:30,659
wondering about cia's uh operations

686
00:30:36,350 --> 00:30:33,840
inside the country it is authorized if

687
00:30:37,970 --> 00:30:36,360
the person approaches CIA first or if

688
00:30:39,769 --> 00:30:37,980
that other person is a member of the

689
00:30:42,049 --> 00:30:39,779
intelligence community

690
00:30:44,510 --> 00:30:42,059
so I just want to say that off the bat

691
00:30:46,490 --> 00:30:44,520
and Nathan take it away awesome yeah

692
00:30:47,930 --> 00:30:46,500
thanks Sean um I'm cognizant of time and

693
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:47,940
I know we've only got Leah for another

694
00:30:53,149 --> 00:30:50,159
few minutes so I'm going to pass it to

695
00:30:55,490 --> 00:30:53,159
her before she has to take off

696
00:30:57,289 --> 00:30:55,500
sure um sign up a little bit I think of

697
00:30:59,389 --> 00:30:57,299
a maybe a perfunctory question which is

698
00:31:01,490 --> 00:30:59,399
just as general citizens

699
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:01,500
um what do you see our responsibilities

700
00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:04,080
as being in and around this subject

701
00:31:08,930 --> 00:31:06,720
particularly as it pertains to

702
00:31:11,389 --> 00:31:08,940
um like government involvement

703
00:31:14,330 --> 00:31:11,399
well I think um the participation of

704
00:31:16,730 --> 00:31:14,340
citizens will be expanded and in fact it

705
00:31:18,430 --> 00:31:16,740
will be essential because once the

706
00:31:21,769 --> 00:31:18,440
government discloses what it knows

707
00:31:24,769 --> 00:31:21,779
citizens will need to carry forward and

708
00:31:26,090 --> 00:31:24,779
complete disclosure because I think all

709
00:31:30,169 --> 00:31:26,100
the government's going to actually

710
00:31:32,330 --> 00:31:30,179
reveal at the beginning is that yes the

711
00:31:34,370 --> 00:31:32,340
craft we're seeing is flown by

712
00:31:36,289 --> 00:31:34,380
non-humans and yes there's a non-human

713
00:31:40,190 --> 00:31:36,299
presence on Earth basically everything

714
00:31:43,310 --> 00:31:40,200
that um Dr Gary Nolan stated at the uh I

715
00:31:46,370 --> 00:31:43,320
saw conference and it's 18 minutes that

716
00:31:48,409 --> 00:31:46,380
pretty much said it all and you'll be

717
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:48,419
hearing a lot more of that later this

718
00:31:54,590 --> 00:31:50,880
year and greater detail for many more

719
00:31:56,810 --> 00:31:54,600
people but from there I mean for me it's

720
00:31:58,610 --> 00:31:56,820
like okay they're they're here and

721
00:32:00,649 --> 00:31:58,620
they're visiting us

722
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,659
to me that's not as exciting as who they

723
00:32:04,190 --> 00:32:02,159
are why they're here

724
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:04,200
right what should how should we contact

725
00:32:07,970 --> 00:32:06,480
them what is the interaction that we as

726
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:07,980
Humanity should have with these other

727
00:32:11,149 --> 00:32:09,360
beings

728
00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:11,159
um and so that's something that citizens

729
00:32:17,510 --> 00:32:14,399
can can come forward with also um there

730
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:17,520
are citizens who've had like not so

731
00:32:22,430 --> 00:32:19,919
happy encounters with these beings for

732
00:32:23,870 --> 00:32:22,440
whatever reason and so that needs to be

733
00:32:25,549 --> 00:32:23,880
taken seriously that there are not

734
00:32:28,430 --> 00:32:25,559
there's nothing wrong with them there's

735
00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:28,440
they don't need to be treated

736
00:32:32,570 --> 00:32:30,240
um in a conventional sense in a

737
00:32:36,769 --> 00:32:32,580
conventional uh mental health therapy

738
00:32:38,570 --> 00:32:36,779
like pathologized yes exactly and so I'm

739
00:32:40,850 --> 00:32:38,580
hoping that stigma will remove from that

740
00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:40,860
and so we can have an honest discussion

741
00:32:45,529 --> 00:32:42,840
to that you know some people perceive

742
00:32:47,330 --> 00:32:45,539
these in a way that uh perceive these

743
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:47,340
beings in a way that they don't quite

744
00:32:51,769 --> 00:32:49,440
understand and that misunderstanding

745
00:32:54,769 --> 00:32:51,779
might cause some consternation added

746
00:32:56,810 --> 00:32:54,779
with that is the stigma associated with

747
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:56,820
that that just adds to the bad

748
00:33:01,730 --> 00:32:59,039
experience more so than the experience

749
00:33:04,430 --> 00:33:01,740
itself so I would suggest citizens will

750
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:04,440
continue especially uh with their

751
00:33:07,850 --> 00:33:06,000
governments because I believe other

752
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,860
countries will come forward after the

753
00:33:11,870 --> 00:33:09,600
U.S comes forward

754
00:33:14,690 --> 00:33:11,880
um that these other countries have

755
00:33:16,730 --> 00:33:14,700
information about this phenomena that

756
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:16,740
they've been keeping

757
00:33:20,210 --> 00:33:18,960
hidden they've been kept hidden and

758
00:33:22,970 --> 00:33:20,220
they're waiting for the US to take the

759
00:33:26,210 --> 00:33:22,980
first step so you know like pressure

760
00:33:27,470 --> 00:33:26,220
your your your legislators

761
00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:27,480
um to come forward with more information

762
00:33:31,370 --> 00:33:29,519
and uh make it part of the political

763
00:33:33,470 --> 00:33:31,380
discourse we're going into a uh in the

764
00:33:35,049 --> 00:33:33,480
U.S we're going into a presidential

765
00:33:37,970 --> 00:33:35,059
campaign

766
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:37,980
this year and so make it part of the

767
00:33:41,690 --> 00:33:39,120
campaign

768
00:33:44,509 --> 00:33:41,700
so that's that's what citizens can do

769
00:33:45,889 --> 00:33:44,519
um raise awareness that this is real

770
00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:45,899
um and the government can remove the

771
00:33:50,990 --> 00:33:48,480
stigma from itself from other government

772
00:33:53,090 --> 00:33:51,000
officers from the military and help

773
00:33:55,070 --> 00:33:53,100
civilians also remove that stigma

774
00:33:57,710 --> 00:33:55,080
because when you see who's going to come

775
00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:57,720
forward and what position they held in

776
00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:59,279
the government

777
00:34:02,269 --> 00:34:00,240
um

778
00:34:04,669 --> 00:34:02,279
it's a fork on conclusion that this is

779
00:34:08,510 --> 00:34:04,679
real that this is a real thing that has

780
00:34:11,389 --> 00:34:10,310
yeah I get uh I'm gonna get Anjali on

781
00:34:12,849 --> 00:34:11,399
that too

782
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:12,859
please

783
00:34:17,149 --> 00:34:15,599
would you restate that or did you did

784
00:34:19,730 --> 00:34:17,159
you already write it down on Julie her

785
00:34:22,070 --> 00:34:19,740
question I think it was the question was

786
00:34:24,109 --> 00:34:22,080
what are the responsibilities

787
00:34:26,990 --> 00:34:24,119
what do we see see as the

788
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:27,000
responsibilities of citizens in after

789
00:34:31,730 --> 00:34:29,760
exposure was that right Leah yep yeah

790
00:34:33,409 --> 00:34:31,740
either in ushering the process um and

791
00:34:36,649 --> 00:34:33,419
John was so kind to answer this almost

792
00:34:38,750 --> 00:34:36,659
from a uh participatory citizen

793
00:34:40,070 --> 00:34:38,760
perspective but even just in the sense

794
00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:40,080
of

795
00:34:45,290 --> 00:34:42,240
um being good neighbors right to other

796
00:34:48,530 --> 00:34:45,300
humans you know right how do we sort of

797
00:34:54,169 --> 00:34:48,540
um experience this collectively in a way

798
00:34:58,490 --> 00:34:54,179
um that's uh supportive of others

799
00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:00,349
she's done a really important point and

800
00:35:05,210 --> 00:35:03,060
that is that not everyone has a positive

801
00:35:07,310 --> 00:35:05,220
contact experience that there are

802
00:35:10,010 --> 00:35:07,320
experiences out there who have had

803
00:35:12,410 --> 00:35:10,020
negative experiences and who have

804
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:12,420
residual Trauma from that

805
00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:14,640
um and you know this is well documented

806
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:16,560
and we

807
00:35:21,609 --> 00:35:20,400
we have to acknowledge that and one

808
00:35:25,490 --> 00:35:21,619
thing that's going to be really

809
00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:25,500
important from a government position is

810
00:35:35,089 --> 00:35:31,680
once we can finally admit as a as as a

811
00:35:36,770 --> 00:35:35,099
nation that this context exists and it

812
00:35:39,710 --> 00:35:36,780
has been ongoing and that we've known

813
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:39,720
about it and that yes we did hide it and

814
00:35:44,270 --> 00:35:42,000
this is why and

815
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:44,280
um and see how far the the conversation

816
00:35:51,490 --> 00:35:46,560
is taken

817
00:35:54,410 --> 00:35:51,500
um it's I think that the

818
00:35:57,470 --> 00:35:54,420
uh I'm sorry I forgot I forgot my train

819
00:35:59,450 --> 00:35:57,480
of thought Leah do you remember this

820
00:36:02,210 --> 00:35:59,460
happens to me I'm sorry I have I have

821
00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:02,220
epilepsy and just oh no stress no

822
00:36:05,930 --> 00:36:04,079
worries no worries basically like like

823
00:36:08,450 --> 00:36:05,940
what are our responsibilities to our

824
00:36:10,670 --> 00:36:08,460
fellow man or fellow humans in this

825
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:10,680
situation there were some there was some

826
00:36:15,170 --> 00:36:13,200
place I was trying to go with that

827
00:36:17,030 --> 00:36:15,180
I don't remember exactly

828
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:17,040
exactly where it was

829
00:36:24,170 --> 00:36:22,320
um but going back to our our spiritual

830
00:36:25,490 --> 00:36:24,180
responsibilities

831
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:25,500
mm-hmm

832
00:36:31,550 --> 00:36:28,800
I would say that

833
00:36:34,010 --> 00:36:31,560
it's

834
00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:34,020
one of the I just remembered at Leah I'm

835
00:36:40,030 --> 00:36:37,200
so sorry okay that because we are so

836
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:40,040
behind the curve in

837
00:36:46,010 --> 00:36:43,200
admitting that this is ongoing and

838
00:36:49,550 --> 00:36:46,020
having a dedicated effort and a

839
00:36:53,630 --> 00:36:49,560
dedicated force that is well funded and

840
00:36:57,170 --> 00:36:53,640
well supported to to try to analyze

841
00:37:00,589 --> 00:36:57,180
what's actually going on and who the cat

842
00:37:02,030 --> 00:37:00,599
who is having contact with home then we

843
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:02,040
really don't have a very clear picture

844
00:37:08,510 --> 00:37:05,520
of what's going on okay I can I can tell

845
00:37:11,329 --> 00:37:08,520
you you know until I'm blue in the face

846
00:37:14,270 --> 00:37:11,339
um you know what different beings also

847
00:37:19,690 --> 00:37:14,280
but one of the things that I am working

848
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,510
who is delivering which kinds of

849
00:37:27,890 --> 00:37:25,680
messages to us

850
00:37:29,630 --> 00:37:27,900
um where they may be coming from for

851
00:37:31,010 --> 00:37:29,640
what purpose you know what is motivating

852
00:37:35,390 --> 00:37:31,020
them

853
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:35,400
um and other other signs in society that

854
00:37:39,650 --> 00:37:37,200
may support

855
00:37:41,210 --> 00:37:39,660
um interference or signs of interference

856
00:37:41,870 --> 00:37:41,220
you know

857
00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:41,880
um

858
00:37:49,069 --> 00:37:45,359
so I'm I'm working diligently at

859
00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:49,079
developing this methodology

860
00:37:53,390 --> 00:37:52,079
um kind of based on some of what I

861
00:37:56,030 --> 00:37:53,400
understood

862
00:37:57,410 --> 00:37:56,040
from from my time you know working in

863
00:38:00,410 --> 00:37:57,420
the IC some of the things that I've

864
00:38:03,950 --> 00:38:00,420
learned I'm trying to put that uh put

865
00:38:05,870 --> 00:38:03,960
that to play right away here I've been

866
00:38:08,990 --> 00:38:05,880
I've been doing this for a couple of

867
00:38:10,910 --> 00:38:09,000
years just and you it's very difficult

868
00:38:18,829 --> 00:38:10,920
in

869
00:38:21,530 --> 00:38:18,839
ton of them before you can reach any

870
00:38:24,290 --> 00:38:21,540
kind of conclusion so it's not like even

871
00:38:26,690 --> 00:38:24,300
if if I've had let's say I've had you

872
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:26,700
know conscious contact once a year I'm

873
00:38:30,170 --> 00:38:28,079
just throwing this out there nobody get

874
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:30,180
attached to this okay this is just a

875
00:38:34,849 --> 00:38:32,400
hypothetical I've had let's just say you

876
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:34,859
know for the first 45 years of my life I

877
00:38:39,050 --> 00:38:37,200
had contact once a year and I

878
00:38:41,089 --> 00:38:39,060
experienced um some kind of conscious

879
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:41,099
communication okay that certainly

880
00:38:46,010 --> 00:38:43,680
doesn't mean that as

881
00:38:48,349 --> 00:38:46,020
um the years have gone by

882
00:38:53,390 --> 00:38:48,359
um that this has been like a collective

883
00:38:55,130 --> 00:38:53,400
experience in my own mind okay because

884
00:38:57,470 --> 00:38:55,140
they

885
00:39:03,170 --> 00:39:00,430
it's very complicated

886
00:39:06,050 --> 00:39:03,180
it's very very complicated I guess what

887
00:39:08,750 --> 00:39:06,060
I'm trying to say is that the IC the

888
00:39:11,150 --> 00:39:08,760
government has a responsibility to get

889
00:39:13,609 --> 00:39:11,160
these experiences especially the ones

890
00:39:15,069 --> 00:39:13,619
from the IC

891
00:39:18,970 --> 00:39:15,079
together

892
00:39:22,930 --> 00:39:18,980
and get these communications

893
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:22,940
on record and then put that up against

894
00:39:28,849 --> 00:39:25,920
the templates and matrices that we have

895
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:28,859
out there uh because they do exist I

896
00:39:33,970 --> 00:39:31,200
already know that some of them exist

897
00:39:37,010 --> 00:39:33,980
that we could use to try to understand

898
00:39:39,410 --> 00:39:37,020
what is actually happening here and we

899
00:39:41,690 --> 00:39:39,420
aren't doing it and that's going to Bear

900
00:39:44,810 --> 00:39:41,700
to our own regret I do believe we have

901
00:39:47,329 --> 00:39:44,820
waited a very long time and I I think

902
00:39:49,730 --> 00:39:47,339
that that's that's a real crying shame

903
00:39:52,130 --> 00:39:49,740
now as far as spiritual responsibilities

904
00:39:56,569 --> 00:39:52,140
and people

905
00:39:59,690 --> 00:39:56,579
um one of the things that the the beings

906
00:40:03,530 --> 00:39:59,700
that I have been in contact want us to

907
00:40:06,290 --> 00:40:03,540
understand is that through

908
00:40:09,530 --> 00:40:06,300
through our meditation through through

909
00:40:14,329 --> 00:40:09,540
meditation and presence of mind

910
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:14,339
and presence of attention Okay be really

911
00:40:20,450 --> 00:40:18,720
being mindfully attentive in a moment

912
00:40:23,390 --> 00:40:20,460
um and

913
00:40:28,490 --> 00:40:25,790
and and they're saying

914
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:28,500
and recognizing their diversity in the

915
00:40:33,170 --> 00:40:30,000
forms of life

916
00:40:37,849 --> 00:40:33,180
will help to prepare everyone

917
00:40:40,310 --> 00:40:37,859
for the for for coming contact and that

918
00:40:42,410 --> 00:40:40,320
some of this that the contact will be

919
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:42,420
experienced

920
00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:45,359
um through conscious communication that

921
00:40:51,829 --> 00:40:48,480
doesn't mean to say that that you won't

922
00:40:55,609 --> 00:40:51,839
visibly have

923
00:40:57,050 --> 00:40:55,619
um you know visual perception okay I'm

924
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:57,060
not saying that and that you know

925
00:41:02,270 --> 00:40:59,040
everybody won't be able to see that I'm

926
00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:02,280
saying that when we we hear and

927
00:41:10,030 --> 00:41:07,200
communicate it will most likely with the

928
00:41:12,349 --> 00:41:10,040
vast majority of beings be through

929
00:41:14,089 --> 00:41:12,359
conscious communication

930
00:41:15,770 --> 00:41:14,099
that doesn't mean that they don't have

931
00:41:19,609 --> 00:41:15,780
language

932
00:41:21,770 --> 00:41:19,619
understand

933
00:41:23,870 --> 00:41:21,780
and beyond that

934
00:41:25,310 --> 00:41:23,880
um just real quick they're also saying I

935
00:41:27,050 --> 00:41:25,320
just have to they want me to throw this

936
00:41:30,290 --> 00:41:27,060
in there very quickly

937
00:41:33,370 --> 00:41:30,300
um to remind everyone that um the

938
00:41:38,030 --> 00:41:33,380
importance of meditation and recognizing

939
00:41:41,329 --> 00:41:38,040
uh the like the collectiveness of of the

940
00:41:43,069 --> 00:41:41,339
human Spirit the the human mind like the

941
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:43,079
human

942
00:41:51,829 --> 00:41:49,680
um that we can collectively tap into

943
00:41:56,569 --> 00:41:51,839
this

944
00:41:59,390 --> 00:41:56,579
there's whatever is connecting all of us

945
00:42:01,970 --> 00:41:59,400
yeah the neurosphere

946
00:42:06,349 --> 00:42:03,829
um yeah that

947
00:42:09,170 --> 00:42:06,359
um that

948
00:42:12,589 --> 00:42:09,180
that we will recognize and be able to

949
00:42:13,790 --> 00:42:12,599
communicate with each other when we are

950
00:42:16,609 --> 00:42:13,800
scattered

951
00:42:18,050 --> 00:42:16,619
and no longer have

952
00:42:22,430 --> 00:42:18,060
um electricity

953
00:42:23,930 --> 00:42:22,440
at our hands oh that is that's a very

954
00:42:27,290 --> 00:42:23,940
scary proposition of not having

955
00:42:30,109 --> 00:42:27,300
electricity but uh but yeah I mean what

956
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:30,119
could be better than uh than uh humans

957
00:42:35,690 --> 00:42:33,119
seeing in one another value instead of

958
00:42:39,410 --> 00:42:35,700
seeing oh this person's different or

959
00:42:41,630 --> 00:42:39,420
their Outlook or their their politics or

960
00:42:43,849 --> 00:42:41,640
their Lookout and you know the social

961
00:42:46,430 --> 00:42:43,859
framework of America you know that stuff

962
00:42:49,490 --> 00:42:46,440
is not important just you know seeing

963
00:42:51,530 --> 00:42:49,500
value in one another and uh you know

964
00:42:53,150 --> 00:42:51,540
somebody recently I heard said there is

965
00:42:55,970 --> 00:42:53,160
no them there's only us

966
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:55,980
so um I can't remember where that was

967
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:59,040
anyway uh I have a question from the

968
00:43:03,650 --> 00:43:00,720
inter first of all welcome to Linda

969
00:43:06,109 --> 00:43:03,660
Linda Thompson made it here with uh you

970
00:43:07,809 --> 00:43:06,119
know we tested 16 or 17 links in one of

971
00:43:10,730 --> 00:43:07,819
them great clumps

972
00:43:13,609 --> 00:43:10,740
awesome and uh I have one question from

973
00:43:15,470 --> 00:43:13,619
the internet for John before you go DJ I

974
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:15,480
think DJ um sorry Leah may have to take

975
00:43:20,990 --> 00:43:18,720
off yeah I need to take off I just

976
00:43:22,910 --> 00:43:21,000
to jump in and say thank you to Anjali

977
00:43:25,790 --> 00:43:22,920
and to John for your considered and very

978
00:43:27,170 --> 00:43:25,800
thoughtful answers and as always thank

979
00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:27,180
you so much to the cabbies and to the

980
00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:28,079
fans

981
00:43:39,410 --> 00:43:36,470
and our actually ironically uh for John

982
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:39,420
and Anjali our our new newer cabbie Matt

983
00:43:44,690 --> 00:43:42,240
who has a Bigfoot show is having a

984
00:43:48,050 --> 00:43:44,700
Bigfoot experiencer on tonight that just

985
00:43:49,849 --> 00:43:48,060
had to get fed individuals like um I I

986
00:43:52,430 --> 00:43:49,859
really have tonight to be able to speak

987
00:43:54,050 --> 00:43:52,440
with you about this and I said Matt you

988
00:43:56,089 --> 00:43:54,060
know if you're getting this kind of a

989
00:43:57,890 --> 00:43:56,099
you know this kind of an experience you

990
00:43:59,870 --> 00:43:57,900
you know we'll see you later have a good

991
00:44:02,030 --> 00:43:59,880
show so that's that's what match

992
00:44:04,670 --> 00:44:02,040
recording but uh hopefully next time we

993
00:44:07,490 --> 00:44:04,680
see you guys you'll get to experience uh

994
00:44:09,890 --> 00:44:07,500
Matt uh he's he's a great cabbie

995
00:44:15,010 --> 00:44:09,900
um so we have this question from uh

996
00:44:21,290 --> 00:44:18,290
369-2525 and he said hi can you ask John

997
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:21,300
how he knows about the arrival of our

998
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:25,200
visitor friends in 2027. so sir would

999
00:44:29,270 --> 00:44:27,119
you John please

1000
00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:29,280
um yes that's not nothing official

1001
00:44:32,809 --> 00:44:31,680
um let me tell you about 2027. I was

1002
00:44:35,329 --> 00:44:32,819
asked that

1003
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:35,339
um in a secure facility a skiff about

1004
00:44:40,010 --> 00:44:37,680
what I knew about 2027 because the word

1005
00:44:42,349 --> 00:44:40,020
in government is that something is going

1006
00:44:44,030 --> 00:44:42,359
to happen and that comes from not unique

1007
00:44:46,430 --> 00:44:44,040
government knowledge but they're

1008
00:44:48,589 --> 00:44:46,440
monitoring of social media their

1009
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:48,599
contacts with Chris Chris Bledsoe and

1010
00:44:53,809 --> 00:44:50,640
everyone knows that Chris Bledsoe has

1011
00:44:56,030 --> 00:44:53,819
had the alphabet soup or the IC and the

1012
00:44:57,530 --> 00:44:56,040
federal government visiting him and it's

1013
00:44:58,450 --> 00:44:57,540
he's been very very

1014
00:45:01,730 --> 00:44:58,460
um

1015
00:45:03,530 --> 00:45:01,740
vocal about 2026 2027 something

1016
00:45:05,690 --> 00:45:03,540
happening and it's coming through as

1017
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:05,700
well through channelers and experiencers

1018
00:45:11,150 --> 00:45:08,880
and so there's some marker in the

1019
00:45:13,370 --> 00:45:11,160
federal government in the ice in the

1020
00:45:15,710 --> 00:45:13,380
intelligence uh area that there's

1021
00:45:18,230 --> 00:45:15,720
something happening 2027.

1022
00:45:21,170 --> 00:45:18,240
um John you an experiencer do you have

1023
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:21,180
you heard anything have you had have any

1024
00:45:28,250 --> 00:45:25,200
inkling about 2027 and I said well I

1025
00:45:30,410 --> 00:45:28,260
actually deferred and I told them um why

1026
00:45:32,089 --> 00:45:30,420
don't you like contact Anjali and

1027
00:45:33,829 --> 00:45:32,099
contact Chris Bledsoe because they

1028
00:45:37,010 --> 00:45:33,839
talked about those years

1029
00:45:39,770 --> 00:45:37,020
um as far as I'm concerned um I'm hoping

1030
00:45:42,109 --> 00:45:39,780
that 2027 would be uh the year where

1031
00:45:43,010 --> 00:45:42,119
they feel comfortable to arrive in

1032
00:45:44,809 --> 00:45:43,020
public

1033
00:45:46,970 --> 00:45:44,819
whereas you know the government already

1034
00:45:51,530 --> 00:45:46,980
knows of their existence the public does

1035
00:45:55,309 --> 00:45:51,540
not and I told these people in this

1036
00:45:58,250 --> 00:45:55,319
secure facility and it was in 2022 you

1037
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:58,260
have five years to get everyone prepared

1038
00:46:03,109 --> 00:46:00,480
if you're going to do disclosure do it

1039
00:46:04,910 --> 00:46:03,119
now because if they do decide to show up

1040
00:46:08,930 --> 00:46:04,920
you're going to have a lot of explaining

1041
00:46:10,849 --> 00:46:08,940
to do I also mentioned uh louisando so

1042
00:46:13,250 --> 00:46:10,859
you know Lewis been saying that you know

1043
00:46:17,150 --> 00:46:13,260
in 2022 wait five years and all be out

1044
00:46:19,849 --> 00:46:17,160
yes yes well yes you said that yes and

1045
00:46:21,890 --> 00:46:19,859
he and so it's not just like I'll be out

1046
00:46:23,870 --> 00:46:21,900
what does that mean it's not just oh

1047
00:46:25,849 --> 00:46:23,880
we're gonna we're gonna disclose that

1048
00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:25,859
what you're seeing up in the sky is real

1049
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,319
that that's not disclosure the real

1050
00:46:33,050 --> 00:46:30,720
disclosure is who's flying these got uh

1051
00:46:35,150 --> 00:46:33,060
these craft up in the air and um where

1052
00:46:37,730 --> 00:46:35,160
they come from and do we know about them

1053
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:37,740
and according to Dr Gary Nolan who seems

1054
00:46:43,069 --> 00:46:40,560
extremely well connected that uh what he

1055
00:46:46,010 --> 00:46:43,079
stated is probably uh pretty close to

1056
00:46:48,650 --> 00:46:46,020
what the government actually knows but

1057
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:48,660
they will need more than one voice

1058
00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:51,119
um other than Dr Gary Nolan to state

1059
00:46:56,510 --> 00:46:54,000
that in succession of people who have

1060
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:56,520
the program clearances to actually back

1061
00:47:02,750 --> 00:46:59,760
up Dr Gary Nolan who is not an official

1062
00:47:05,930 --> 00:47:02,760
in the IC he is a consultant to the IC

1063
00:47:08,450 --> 00:47:05,940
so once we have officials in the IC and

1064
00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:08,460
in the Pentagon saying that it'll give

1065
00:47:12,650 --> 00:47:11,040
more Credence to uh their presence and

1066
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:12,660
perhaps then we can have a discussion

1067
00:47:18,589 --> 00:47:15,200
about 2027.

1068
00:47:20,450 --> 00:47:18,599
uh you know I have ques I'm passing into

1069
00:47:22,730 --> 00:47:20,460
Deb right now because I've I have a

1070
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,740
question of about that and but I'll wait

1071
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:24,720
till it comes around um so Deb please go

1072
00:47:28,569 --> 00:47:27,119
ahead ma'am oh okay I think we skipped

1073
00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:28,579
Nathan so we have to go back today

1074
00:47:34,010 --> 00:47:31,440
Nathan but please go ahead uh please go

1075
00:47:36,109 --> 00:47:34,020
ahead okay yeah so I just wanted to like

1076
00:47:38,990 --> 00:47:36,119
I I've had a lot of different questions

1077
00:47:41,150 --> 00:47:39,000
come to my mind but the one that really

1078
00:47:43,130 --> 00:47:41,160
is catching me right now is all these

1079
00:47:45,710 --> 00:47:43,140
institutes that seem to be doing like a

1080
00:47:47,530 --> 00:47:45,720
tug of war with this topic we have the

1081
00:47:50,450 --> 00:47:47,540
White House pulled some things away

1082
00:47:52,490 --> 00:47:50,460
arrows doing some things the Navy was

1083
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:52,500
doing some things the US Air Force is

1084
00:47:56,569 --> 00:47:53,760
pretending they're not doing anything

1085
00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:56,579
the space force is definitely doing

1086
00:48:02,270 --> 00:47:59,520
something NASA's about to talk to us on

1087
00:48:04,430 --> 00:48:02,280
the 31st so

1088
00:48:06,890 --> 00:48:04,440
um with all of that happening who should

1089
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:06,900
we be turning to and what is the role of

1090
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:09,359
places like the Monroe Institute who are

1091
00:48:13,790 --> 00:48:11,280
also trying to contribute to these

1092
00:48:16,250 --> 00:48:13,800
conversations is that for Anjali or John

1093
00:48:18,890 --> 00:48:16,260
both whoever wants to take it first I

1094
00:48:20,030 --> 00:48:18,900
know that either of you can answer this

1095
00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:20,040
one

1096
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:23,280
I will defer to John first

1097
00:48:28,370 --> 00:48:25,920
okay um I'll take that

1098
00:48:30,170 --> 00:48:28,380
um so everyone should know that um you

1099
00:48:31,790 --> 00:48:30,180
know when the remote viewing program was

1100
00:48:33,170 --> 00:48:31,800
removed from the federal government one

1101
00:48:35,690 --> 00:48:33,180
of the hardest things to do in federal

1102
00:48:38,089 --> 00:48:35,700
government is to kill programs basically

1103
00:48:40,069 --> 00:48:38,099
what you do is uh you remove you move

1104
00:48:42,170 --> 00:48:40,079
the program into another office by

1105
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:42,180
creating another office and hiding it

1106
00:48:46,730 --> 00:48:44,880
there and so you you never get rid of a

1107
00:48:49,609 --> 00:48:46,740
federal program once it started and for

1108
00:48:52,370 --> 00:48:49,619
remote viewing it was removed from the

1109
00:48:55,370 --> 00:48:52,380
federal government proper and Outsource

1110
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:55,380
to outside organizations such as the

1111
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:59,280
Monroe Institute such as I would also

1112
00:49:03,710 --> 00:49:01,680
add the farsight institute in Atlanta

1113
00:49:07,550 --> 00:49:03,720
as two organizations that are doing

1114
00:49:09,410 --> 00:49:07,560
remote viewing uh Dr Paul Smith has his

1115
00:49:11,150 --> 00:49:09,420
own organization and now you know

1116
00:49:12,170 --> 00:49:11,160
there's a international remote viewing

1117
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,180
Association

1118
00:49:15,890 --> 00:49:14,400
and so a lot of remote viewing still

1119
00:49:18,109 --> 00:49:15,900
happens but it's outside the government

1120
00:49:19,550 --> 00:49:18,119
purview so that addresses Monroe

1121
00:49:21,890 --> 00:49:19,560
Institute they're very important because

1122
00:49:24,349 --> 00:49:21,900
they focus on Consciousness and

1123
00:49:26,930 --> 00:49:24,359
Consciousness is a major part of the

1124
00:49:29,569 --> 00:49:26,940
experience as well as a major part of

1125
00:49:32,329 --> 00:49:29,579
the physics of how they fly

1126
00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:32,339
um and so to answer your first part of

1127
00:49:36,890 --> 00:49:34,800
the question yeah this it seems like we

1128
00:49:41,150 --> 00:49:36,900
have a lot of cooks making one big mess

1129
00:49:43,130 --> 00:49:41,160
of a stew but they all have parts to

1130
00:49:45,290 --> 00:49:43,140
contribute because no one single

1131
00:49:48,349 --> 00:49:45,300
organization has it all

1132
00:49:50,329 --> 00:49:48,359
and if anyone has it all I would say the

1133
00:49:52,370 --> 00:49:50,339
Central Intelligence Agency probably is

1134
00:49:54,650 --> 00:49:52,380
that organization because they were

1135
00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:54,660
there from the very beginning

1136
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:57,119
uh from the time of Roswell and perhaps

1137
00:50:02,930 --> 00:49:59,040
also the Navy because there was an

1138
00:50:05,210 --> 00:50:02,940
Office of Naval intelligence since 1882.

1139
00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:05,220
so they definitely has they've been

1140
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:06,960
there since the beginning so these two

1141
00:50:10,910 --> 00:50:08,640
organizations I would pay attention to

1142
00:50:13,250 --> 00:50:10,920
now as far as like getting it all

1143
00:50:15,950 --> 00:50:13,260
together that's what the this disclosure

1144
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:15,960
is all about that Dr Gary Nolan has been

1145
00:50:22,010 --> 00:50:19,440
hinting at that there will be this

1146
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:22,020
admission by the government of what he

1147
00:50:26,809 --> 00:50:24,960
said about the craft being non-human and

1148
00:50:28,370 --> 00:50:26,819
the non-human presence they're finally

1149
00:50:31,130 --> 00:50:28,380
going to get it together

1150
00:50:33,290 --> 00:50:31,140
under one conductor

1151
00:50:35,569 --> 00:50:33,300
conducting the orchestra of many many

1152
00:50:38,510 --> 00:50:35,579
instruments playing their part and I

1153
00:50:41,150 --> 00:50:38,520
believe that conductor is actually the

1154
00:50:43,790 --> 00:50:41,160
intelligence Community Committees of the

1155
00:50:46,250 --> 00:50:43,800
U.S Congress and so who do we have to

1156
00:50:49,250 --> 00:50:46,260
thank for being the conductor as well uh

1157
00:50:52,010 --> 00:50:49,260
my hat's off to uh Senator Kristen

1158
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:52,020
gillibran uh she's been very

1159
00:50:56,510 --> 00:50:54,000
instrumental in putting it all together

1160
00:50:58,190 --> 00:50:56,520
and she has a role to play as well as as

1161
00:50:59,930 --> 00:50:58,200
the conductor she can't play the

1162
00:51:01,609 --> 00:50:59,940
instruments but she knows the sheet of

1163
00:51:03,710 --> 00:51:01,619
music she's working from and she's

1164
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:03,720
trying to get all these musicians to

1165
00:51:08,329 --> 00:51:06,240
play the same sheet of music

1166
00:51:09,770 --> 00:51:08,339
um their part whatever instruments

1167
00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:09,780
they're bringing to the symphony so

1168
00:51:15,230 --> 00:51:11,280
that's what's going to happen at the uh

1169
00:51:19,549 --> 00:51:16,849
um Anjali if you have something on that

1170
00:51:23,390 --> 00:51:19,559
uh please go ahead ma'am

1171
00:51:25,970 --> 00:51:23,400
I I don't have anything of of real value

1172
00:51:29,690 --> 00:51:25,980
to add um I'm not surprised you know

1173
00:51:30,770 --> 00:51:29,700
that we have a tug of war uh when you

1174
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:30,780
have

1175
00:51:42,290 --> 00:51:32,160
a

1176
00:51:44,210 --> 00:51:42,300
you would expect for it

1177
00:51:47,650 --> 00:51:44,220
to be this is my new thing lately

1178
00:51:52,849 --> 00:51:50,750
suddenly it just keeps coming

1179
00:51:56,210 --> 00:51:52,859
it works I'm telling you it's such a

1180
00:52:00,109 --> 00:51:56,220
great metaphor for so many things but

1181
00:52:02,450 --> 00:52:00,119
um but that's really a a

1182
00:52:04,010 --> 00:52:02,460
um a good way of looking at how they

1183
00:52:06,650 --> 00:52:04,020
pulled compartmented this is and

1184
00:52:08,690 --> 00:52:06,660
sometimes we can easily lose sight of

1185
00:52:11,089 --> 00:52:08,700
those programs over the years

1186
00:52:15,530 --> 00:52:11,099
um in in the IC outside of those that

1187
00:52:17,329 --> 00:52:15,540
are uh you know who are read into them

1188
00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:17,339
um simply because we stopped talking

1189
00:52:22,670 --> 00:52:19,200
about them and there's a turnover in

1190
00:52:27,069 --> 00:52:22,680
Workforce and blah blah blah and

1191
00:52:31,730 --> 00:52:29,690
thank you thank you very much for those

1192
00:52:33,950 --> 00:52:31,740
uh thoughtful answers and I know the

1193
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:33,960
question I asked John Deb I think got

1194
00:52:37,490 --> 00:52:35,520
three or four people on Twitter that

1195
00:52:40,250 --> 00:52:37,500
asked her that same question so I think

1196
00:52:42,170 --> 00:52:40,260
we knock those out okay so now we have

1197
00:52:44,809 --> 00:52:42,180
about 30 minutes left we're probably

1198
00:52:46,490 --> 00:52:44,819
going to end up going over 15. so let's

1199
00:52:48,170 --> 00:52:46,500
try to shorten things up a little bit

1200
00:52:50,690 --> 00:52:48,180
because we actually do have a lot to get

1201
00:52:52,609 --> 00:52:50,700
to uh in in the time that we have

1202
00:52:54,109 --> 00:52:52,619
together this evening like I said uh

1203
00:52:56,569 --> 00:52:54,119
with the concurrence of our special

1204
00:52:58,730 --> 00:52:56,579
guests we might go over 15 minutes but

1205
00:53:00,589 --> 00:52:58,740
we still gotta just tighten it up a

1206
00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:00,599
little bit so Nathan please go ahead sir

1207
00:53:06,290 --> 00:53:03,119
and then we'll go to uh Linda

1208
00:53:08,690 --> 00:53:06,300
sure uh yeah so we live in a time where

1209
00:53:10,910 --> 00:53:08,700
I I think it's fair to say a lot of the

1210
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:10,920
people of the world have a have a

1211
00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:13,440
distrust of the institutions that that

1212
00:53:19,849 --> 00:53:16,079
that that are here

1213
00:53:22,849 --> 00:53:19,859
um and the distrust is only growing uh

1214
00:53:25,849 --> 00:53:22,859
it seems difficult to find a consensus

1215
00:53:27,650 --> 00:53:25,859
opinion on who to listen to and and

1216
00:53:29,569 --> 00:53:27,660
there's been a legacy particularly with

1217
00:53:32,270 --> 00:53:29,579
this topic of obfuscation and

1218
00:53:34,130 --> 00:53:32,280
disinformation and you know you you name

1219
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:34,140
it so you can understand why a lot of

1220
00:53:38,990 --> 00:53:36,960
folks heads are are spinning uh

1221
00:53:42,049 --> 00:53:39,000
sometimes when they hear about

1222
00:53:44,930 --> 00:53:42,059
institutions sort of taking the lead in

1223
00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:44,940
in this process and I was wondering you

1224
00:53:49,130 --> 00:53:47,280
know kind of broadly what are your

1225
00:53:51,290 --> 00:53:49,140
perspectives on whether or not

1226
00:53:54,770 --> 00:53:51,300
institutions can actually handle what

1227
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:54,780
disclosure is or is it on some level a

1228
00:53:59,870 --> 00:53:57,119
deeply personal process that really only

1229
00:54:02,390 --> 00:53:59,880
can happen at an individual level what

1230
00:54:04,970 --> 00:54:02,400
is the role of the institution and the

1231
00:54:07,069 --> 00:54:04,980
individual here

1232
00:54:09,170 --> 00:54:07,079
and I guess I'll pass to John first and

1233
00:54:12,290 --> 00:54:09,180
I definitely want to hear from Anjali so

1234
00:54:14,450 --> 00:54:12,300
okay um real quickly now um I would say

1235
00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:14,460
that after disclosure happens by the

1236
00:54:19,250 --> 00:54:17,280
government to remove the stigma that

1237
00:54:21,470 --> 00:54:19,260
there are actually non-human craft

1238
00:54:23,569 --> 00:54:21,480
flying in our skies and that there are

1239
00:54:25,849 --> 00:54:23,579
non-human beings the presence of

1240
00:54:27,530 --> 00:54:25,859
non-human beings on our planet

1241
00:54:28,730 --> 00:54:27,540
um from there the institutions can take

1242
00:54:31,309 --> 00:54:28,740
over because that's the biggest

1243
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:31,319
stumbling block right now is that the

1244
00:54:35,809 --> 00:54:32,880
government will not admit what it has

1245
00:54:37,790 --> 00:54:35,819
known for decades for decades and once

1246
00:54:40,670 --> 00:54:37,800
the government emits first they have to

1247
00:54:43,250 --> 00:54:40,680
admit that yes we've lied and the

1248
00:54:46,250 --> 00:54:43,260
government has lied and yes we cannot

1249
00:54:48,349 --> 00:54:46,260
now acknowledge what you've suspected

1250
00:54:50,569 --> 00:54:48,359
and known all along

1251
00:54:52,430 --> 00:54:50,579
um everyone here listening to us who are

1252
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:52,440
into this topic they're going to listen

1253
00:54:56,210 --> 00:54:54,480
to it and say gee that wasn't nothing

1254
00:54:58,130 --> 00:54:56,220
Burger I already knew that but think

1255
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:58,140
about the 8 billion people on the planet

1256
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:00,720
we're trying to reach the rest of the

1257
00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:03,119
planet not just the enthusiasts who are

1258
00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:06,480
now tuning in to calling all beings

1259
00:55:09,890 --> 00:55:08,160
um those are the people we're trying to

1260
00:55:11,329 --> 00:55:09,900
reach because we want to have a global

1261
00:55:13,370 --> 00:55:11,339
discourse and that's when the other

1262
00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:13,380
institutions come in and we're talking

1263
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:14,640
about

1264
00:55:19,250 --> 00:55:16,079
um uh religious beliefs we're talking

1265
00:55:22,790 --> 00:55:19,260
about sociologists psychologists

1266
00:55:25,609 --> 00:55:22,800
um Physical Therapy uh phys physiologist

1267
00:55:29,150 --> 00:55:25,619
um therapists and everything else in in

1268
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:29,160
society including the the scientists who

1269
00:55:34,190 --> 00:55:31,920
uh will have to relearn the science they

1270
00:55:36,530 --> 00:55:34,200
were taught and the rest of us will have

1271
00:55:38,569 --> 00:55:36,540
to relearn the history that we've been

1272
00:55:40,010 --> 00:55:38,579
taught and I think the institutions can

1273
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:40,020
take over from there and that's why I

1274
00:55:44,750 --> 00:55:42,960
support the uh project Titan initiative

1275
00:55:46,809 --> 00:55:44,760
by San Marino going to the United

1276
00:55:49,970 --> 00:55:46,819
Nations that's where it needs to happen

1277
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:49,980
and I told the folks in government doing

1278
00:55:54,410 --> 00:55:51,599
this disclosure and you know if you guys

1279
00:55:55,970 --> 00:55:54,420
just talk about the non-human beings and

1280
00:55:59,329 --> 00:55:55,980
you talk about the non-human craft and

1281
00:56:01,490 --> 00:55:59,339
don't show what you have it's it's back

1282
00:56:03,349 --> 00:56:01,500
to square one you guys got to release

1283
00:56:06,109 --> 00:56:03,359
everything you have and let civilian

1284
00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:06,119
scientists in Academia global really

1285
00:56:10,370 --> 00:56:08,640
look at what you have and maybe they can

1286
00:56:12,589 --> 00:56:10,380
come up with something better than this

1287
00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:12,599
flying triangle that's a spy plane the

1288
00:56:16,730 --> 00:56:14,640
Air Force wants to keep hidden and so

1289
00:56:18,770 --> 00:56:16,740
that's my quick answer uh to that there

1290
00:56:21,710 --> 00:56:18,780
is a there is a role to play but after

1291
00:56:24,349 --> 00:56:21,720
after the government actually emits its

1292
00:56:25,569 --> 00:56:24,359
lied and we acknowledge that they're

1293
00:56:31,370 --> 00:56:25,579
here

1294
00:56:34,910 --> 00:56:31,380
she's raising the roof go ahead Anjali

1295
00:56:37,730 --> 00:56:34,920
I just I I just had to give him the Amen

1296
00:56:40,250 --> 00:56:37,740
on that um trying the black triangle and

1297
00:56:42,710 --> 00:56:40,260
I think that anybody who has been on

1298
00:56:45,470 --> 00:56:42,720
Twitter this week understands why I just

1299
00:56:47,530 --> 00:56:45,480
was it's been a wild strange strange

1300
00:56:51,370 --> 00:56:47,540
week but um

1301
00:56:54,829 --> 00:56:51,380
disclosure uh and uh

1302
00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:54,839
how how deeply personal

1303
00:56:58,250 --> 00:56:57,359
How Deeply personally will we experience

1304
00:57:00,410 --> 00:56:58,260
it

1305
00:57:02,390 --> 00:57:00,420
well

1306
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:02,400
how deeply personal do you feel about

1307
00:57:08,270 --> 00:57:06,480
someone being in inside of your mind

1308
00:57:09,290 --> 00:57:08,280
directly communicating with your

1309
00:57:11,329 --> 00:57:09,300
consciousness

1310
00:57:12,890 --> 00:57:11,339
I'd say that's about as intimate As It

1311
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:12,900
Gets

1312
00:57:18,170 --> 00:57:16,079
um it is a very intimate experience it's

1313
00:57:22,309 --> 00:57:18,180
and I don't mean intimate in any kind of

1314
00:57:26,210 --> 00:57:22,319
sexual way I mean it in a very emotional

1315
00:57:31,609 --> 00:57:29,390
um informational okay because you get so

1316
00:57:34,510 --> 00:57:31,619
much information from it

1317
00:57:37,069 --> 00:57:34,520
um it's it's an immersive experience

1318
00:57:38,690 --> 00:57:37,079
that uh

1319
00:57:43,970 --> 00:57:38,700
we

1320
00:57:45,849 --> 00:57:43,980
what does that mean

1321
00:57:50,270 --> 00:57:45,859
I have no idea

1322
00:57:53,630 --> 00:57:50,280
I had no idea what exactly it's going to

1323
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:53,640
look like when people begin coming forth

1324
00:57:59,690 --> 00:57:56,880
and we We Begin having

1325
00:58:01,609 --> 00:57:59,700
um actual physical contact with beings

1326
00:58:03,950 --> 00:58:01,619
okay uh

1327
00:58:05,770 --> 00:58:03,960
I don't know what that's going to look

1328
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:05,780
like

1329
00:58:11,690 --> 00:58:09,599
I suspect some things

1330
00:58:13,010 --> 00:58:11,700
um and

1331
00:58:16,130 --> 00:58:13,020
um

1332
00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:16,140
people aren't you know they're probably

1333
00:58:19,609 --> 00:58:18,480
not going to like the things that I

1334
00:58:22,490 --> 00:58:19,619
suspect

1335
00:58:25,730 --> 00:58:22,500
um this is not where yes we are going

1336
00:58:27,650 --> 00:58:25,740
into a very interesting period

1337
00:58:30,589 --> 00:58:27,660
um we are also going into a very

1338
00:58:33,290 --> 00:58:30,599
difficult period This is not going to be

1339
00:58:35,930 --> 00:58:33,300
a period without its struggles

1340
00:58:40,010 --> 00:58:35,940
um and without its enlightening moments

1341
00:58:42,650 --> 00:58:40,020
without its Revelations and I think that

1342
00:58:44,230 --> 00:58:42,660
um as long as

1343
00:58:47,150 --> 00:58:44,240
we all understand

1344
00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:47,160
that this is more than

1345
00:59:18,410 --> 00:58:48,720
a

1346
00:59:19,849 --> 00:59:18,420
this experience so uh you know if if XO

1347
00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:19,859
Academia can't make it happen for us

1348
00:59:25,250 --> 00:59:22,079
maybe Anjali can I don't know

1349
00:59:26,690 --> 00:59:25,260
um so um let's get Linda and then Julian

1350
00:59:28,970 --> 00:59:26,700
there with their questions and then

1351
00:59:31,490 --> 00:59:28,980
we're going to go into uh the round

1352
00:59:34,010 --> 00:59:31,500
table where we'll all bring

1353
00:59:36,349 --> 00:59:34,020
um put our topics out there one by one

1354
00:59:38,990 --> 00:59:36,359
onto the table including our guests of

1355
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:39,000
honor uh Anjali and John or John Julie

1356
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:42,240
so anyway go ahead Linda

1357
00:59:47,690 --> 00:59:44,640
um Julie wanted to go ahead you were

1358
00:59:53,990 --> 00:59:50,750
the sister from another mister go ahead

1359
00:59:57,890 --> 00:59:54,000
all right thank you sister Linda can you

1360
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:00,289
okay well

1361
01:00:05,630 --> 01:00:03,839
as an experiencer and talking with other

1362
01:00:07,609 --> 01:00:05,640
experiences and listening to what Chris

1363
01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:07,619
Bledsoe has had to say and you well

1364
01:00:11,870 --> 01:00:09,119
actually

1365
01:00:14,569 --> 01:00:11,880
I I am

1366
01:00:16,430 --> 01:00:14,579
personally convinced that

1367
01:00:19,069 --> 01:00:16,440
they are so interested in the lady

1368
01:00:21,410 --> 01:00:19,079
because it is

1369
01:00:23,809 --> 01:00:21,420
Mother Earth it is Mother Earth

1370
01:00:26,589 --> 01:00:23,819
communicating with us it is the holy

1371
01:00:30,230 --> 01:00:26,599
spirit it is the female of the Trinity

1372
01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:30,240
it is what they are afraid to admit

1373
01:00:36,650 --> 01:00:32,400
because it will upset the apple cart of

1374
01:00:42,250 --> 01:00:39,770
something that communicates like you

1375
01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:42,260
said in your head it gets in your head

1376
01:00:47,450 --> 01:00:45,599
and it hears your thoughts it knows your

1377
01:00:50,150 --> 01:00:47,460
soul and

1378
01:00:53,089 --> 01:00:50,160
yes it has everything to do with

1379
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:53,099
spirituality and I am wondering if the

1380
01:00:58,970 --> 01:00:55,920
IC Community has also picked up censor

1381
01:01:01,690 --> 01:00:58,980
readings as to something I believe that

1382
01:01:03,890 --> 01:01:01,700
it actually works with dark matter

1383
01:01:06,829 --> 01:01:03,900
quantum mechanics

1384
01:01:08,930 --> 01:01:06,839
that that is part of how it communicates

1385
01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:08,940
it's part of how it cloaks it's part of

1386
01:01:13,849 --> 01:01:11,760
how it manifests I mean even the sulfur

1387
01:01:16,190 --> 01:01:13,859
smell of things that come that people

1388
01:01:20,870 --> 01:01:16,200
say oh it's a demon that can just be

1389
01:01:22,490 --> 01:01:20,880
Alchemy you know I I I'm wondering if

1390
01:01:25,730 --> 01:01:22,500
y'all have

1391
01:01:29,870 --> 01:01:25,740
anything to say on that kind of matter

1392
01:01:32,510 --> 01:01:31,490
well

1393
01:01:35,270 --> 01:01:32,520
um

1394
01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:35,280
I I tell you what one of the things that

1395
01:01:39,770 --> 01:01:37,440
I absolutely loved that you saw Jules

1396
01:01:41,450 --> 01:01:39,780
that I could really relate to it

1397
01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:41,460
resonates with me

1398
01:01:46,910 --> 01:01:43,440
um was the idea that we're experiencing

1399
01:01:49,250 --> 01:01:46,920
all of this through quantum mechanics

1400
01:01:52,490 --> 01:01:49,260
um I

1401
01:01:54,349 --> 01:01:52,500
I agree I think that there is truly

1402
01:01:57,470 --> 01:01:54,359
something there

1403
01:01:58,670 --> 01:01:57,480
um I think that it has to do with the

1404
01:02:00,109 --> 01:01:58,680
breath

1405
01:02:02,750 --> 01:02:00,119
and we're always talking about the

1406
01:02:04,970 --> 01:02:02,760
importance ref

1407
01:02:07,309 --> 01:02:04,980
um and I think people are

1408
01:02:10,970 --> 01:02:07,319
misunderstanding

1409
01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:10,980
um it's it's not that it's because we

1410
01:02:16,130 --> 01:02:12,240
are

1411
01:02:18,170 --> 01:02:16,140
um we're just exchanging oxygen and

1412
01:02:21,470 --> 01:02:18,180
getting out carbon dioxide

1413
01:02:25,430 --> 01:02:21,480
I think it's that we are taking in

1414
01:02:28,549 --> 01:02:25,440
like we're getting feedback like like

1415
01:02:31,870 --> 01:02:28,559
it's a biosphere all right we're

1416
01:02:35,930 --> 01:02:31,880
breathing his life yeah breath is life

1417
01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:35,940
there is so much that is living in our

1418
01:02:40,910 --> 01:02:38,640
air there are there is there is so much

1419
01:02:43,549 --> 01:02:40,920
water in our air

1420
01:02:46,549 --> 01:02:43,559
and we already know that that water is

1421
01:02:50,450 --> 01:02:46,559
conscious water reacts to thoughts it

1422
01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:50,460
reacts to our intentions

1423
01:02:56,450 --> 01:02:54,240
um it responds to us emotionally and in

1424
01:03:00,470 --> 01:02:56,460
the way that it it in the way that it

1425
01:03:02,809 --> 01:03:00,480
shifts and changes under our focus and

1426
01:03:06,770 --> 01:03:02,819
our observation

1427
01:03:09,349 --> 01:03:06,780
um so it's life it too like air it's

1428
01:03:11,210 --> 01:03:09,359
yeah like water is in the air for the

1429
01:03:14,450 --> 01:03:11,220
love of Pete and we are breathing this

1430
01:03:17,270 --> 01:03:14,460
in and it's memory breathing in water is

1431
01:03:20,809 --> 01:03:17,280
in memory of of the whole universe I

1432
01:03:22,970 --> 01:03:20,819
mean it holds memory It's So Divine it's

1433
01:03:26,030 --> 01:03:22,980
so so

1434
01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:26,040
um I I tend to agree that I think that

1435
01:03:33,109 --> 01:03:27,359
that

1436
01:03:36,470 --> 01:03:33,119
cusp of learning a lot and I just hope

1437
01:03:39,230 --> 01:03:36,480
that that we that we continue that that

1438
01:03:42,109 --> 01:03:39,240
Progressive path forward

1439
01:03:43,849 --> 01:03:42,119
in a positive so so much I also love

1440
01:03:46,309 --> 01:03:43,859
where Jules said that Mother Earth is

1441
01:03:48,049 --> 01:03:46,319
communicating with us because uh that's

1442
01:03:49,849 --> 01:03:48,059
something that just personally resonates

1443
01:03:51,470 --> 01:03:49,859
with me also all right so we're gonna

1444
01:03:54,829 --> 01:03:51,480
get Linda in there and then we're gonna

1445
01:03:56,750 --> 01:03:54,839
get into the uh the the fireside chat

1446
01:03:58,849 --> 01:03:56,760
portion where everyone will throw their

1447
01:04:00,650 --> 01:03:58,859
topics out for the group and again let's

1448
01:04:02,089 --> 01:04:00,660
try to just just tight and tighten it up

1449
01:04:04,849 --> 01:04:02,099
just because we want to be respectful of

1450
01:04:07,910 --> 01:04:04,859
the time of our guests go ahead uh ma'am

1451
01:04:11,630 --> 01:04:07,920
okay I just want to say it's wonderful

1452
01:04:14,809 --> 01:04:11,640
being here with John and Anjali and

1453
01:04:17,450 --> 01:04:14,819
um really it's difficult to ask anything

1454
01:04:20,270 --> 01:04:17,460
very fast

1455
01:04:22,910 --> 01:04:20,280
um but do either one of you have any

1456
01:04:25,910 --> 01:04:22,920
experience flying The Craft

1457
01:04:31,670 --> 01:04:28,069
I could go first um

1458
01:04:34,730 --> 01:04:31,680
I have experiences writing the craft at

1459
01:04:35,690 --> 01:04:34,740
least two of them so I've been on board

1460
01:04:38,210 --> 01:04:35,700
one

1461
01:04:41,270 --> 01:04:38,220
um in terms of being examined but as far

1462
01:04:44,450 --> 01:04:41,280
as a craft and movement I do have very

1463
01:04:45,530 --> 01:04:44,460
very Vivid memories of being at least on

1464
01:04:48,530 --> 01:04:45,540
to craft

1465
01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:48,540
that were flying in our skies and so I

1466
01:04:53,030 --> 01:04:50,880
have that experience but I never was a

1467
01:04:56,630 --> 01:04:53,040
pilot of a craft

1468
01:04:58,309 --> 01:04:56,640
um in recent memory I did have a qhht or

1469
01:05:02,150 --> 01:04:58,319
Quantum healing hypnosis technique

1470
01:05:04,970 --> 01:05:02,160
session where I was flying a craft

1471
01:05:08,030 --> 01:05:04,980
um but I was not human I was an another

1472
01:05:10,970 --> 01:05:08,040
type of non-human being visiting this

1473
01:05:15,349 --> 01:05:10,980
planet a long long time ago so I have

1474
01:05:17,930 --> 01:05:15,359
that recovered qhst session memory

1475
01:05:21,530 --> 01:05:17,940
okay thank you a couple different

1476
01:05:23,450 --> 01:05:21,540
lifetimes awesome man and Linda I gotta

1477
01:05:26,510 --> 01:05:23,460
just to throw it back at you have you

1478
01:05:28,370 --> 01:05:26,520
flown the craft yes

1479
01:05:30,710 --> 01:05:28,380
may you don't even have your pilot's

1480
01:05:33,849 --> 01:05:30,720
license this is ridiculous all right

1481
01:05:39,289 --> 01:05:37,309
Linda but but the phenomenon does go

1482
01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:39,299
ahead Anjali

1483
01:05:43,309 --> 01:05:42,000
um I will have to say that I I don't

1484
01:05:46,730 --> 01:05:43,319
know

1485
01:05:48,670 --> 01:05:46,740
um I have

1486
01:05:51,650 --> 01:05:48,680
I have had

1487
01:05:53,210 --> 01:05:51,660
conscious communication with

1488
01:06:00,650 --> 01:05:53,220
a

1489
01:06:03,309 --> 01:06:00,660
um

1490
01:06:07,430 --> 01:06:03,319
who has shown me

1491
01:06:11,870 --> 01:06:07,440
how their craft works okay

1492
01:06:16,130 --> 01:06:11,880
and it has to do with their

1493
01:06:18,589 --> 01:06:16,140
their hand slipping into a mold

1494
01:06:20,030 --> 01:06:18,599
of some sort you know that's I don't

1495
01:06:23,089 --> 01:06:20,040
know if it's I think it's just

1496
01:06:26,329 --> 01:06:23,099
specifically for their their specific

1497
01:06:30,049 --> 01:06:26,339
um hand you know like a personal mold

1498
01:06:33,410 --> 01:06:30,059
um and and it's like three prongs but

1499
01:06:35,150 --> 01:06:33,420
it's like fingers okay and they slip in

1500
01:06:40,370 --> 01:06:35,160
and

1501
01:06:45,069 --> 01:06:40,380
of The Craft

1502
01:06:50,210 --> 01:06:45,079
and so suddenly the craft and the pilot

1503
01:06:52,609 --> 01:06:50,220
are ones one like one

1504
01:06:55,069 --> 01:06:52,619
hybrid you know

1505
01:06:56,930 --> 01:06:55,079
being for a little while they don't

1506
01:06:58,190 --> 01:06:56,940
remain that way

1507
01:07:01,670 --> 01:06:58,200
um but

1508
01:07:05,089 --> 01:07:01,680
so no I don't have that experience but I

1509
01:07:06,950 --> 01:07:05,099
have experienced it through them if that

1510
01:07:09,529 --> 01:07:06,960
makes sense okay

1511
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:09,539
amazing and you know one of Linda's uh

1512
01:07:15,109 --> 01:07:11,280
connections

1513
01:07:18,289 --> 01:07:15,119
um ganga today told me that that skin of

1514
01:07:20,930 --> 01:07:18,299
The Craft has embedded wave guides in

1515
01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:20,940
the skin and therefore the pulses of or

1516
01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:23,760
signals of uh or electricity that runs

1517
01:07:28,370 --> 01:07:26,400
that craft runs through those wavegues

1518
01:07:30,589 --> 01:07:28,380
and I found that fascinating because

1519
01:07:32,329 --> 01:07:30,599
that seems like the way you would do it

1520
01:07:35,569 --> 01:07:32,339
if you were you know that advanced so

1521
01:07:37,789 --> 01:07:35,579
it's fascinating uh okay so we've been

1522
01:07:39,829 --> 01:07:37,799
through everybody am I right money

1523
01:07:42,349 --> 01:07:39,839
I think so yeah yeah

1524
01:07:45,890 --> 01:07:42,359
um I'll save my question for after maybe

1525
01:07:49,490 --> 01:07:45,900
we'll if we can get through uh uh I

1526
01:07:50,990 --> 01:07:49,500
because I do have a a question but uh um

1527
01:07:52,849 --> 01:07:51,000
I'm not sure if I should we should go

1528
01:07:55,549 --> 01:07:52,859
through the round table and I'll get

1529
01:07:56,750 --> 01:07:55,559
mine and what are you thinking Nathan

1530
01:07:59,210 --> 01:07:56,760
um yeah whatever you what do you think

1531
01:08:02,329 --> 01:07:59,220
is best all right um I'll throw this in

1532
01:08:03,170 --> 01:08:02,339
there real quick to Anjali and John

1533
01:08:05,210 --> 01:08:03,180
um

1534
01:08:07,370 --> 01:08:05,220
you know what no I'll I'll

1535
01:08:09,529 --> 01:08:07,380
um I'll save that for uh I'll save this

1536
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:09,539
one for the uh the question for the

1537
01:08:14,150 --> 01:08:11,760
round table so let's let's go right into

1538
01:08:16,370 --> 01:08:14,160
it and I

1539
01:08:18,169 --> 01:08:16,380
we can start with would you like to

1540
01:08:20,209 --> 01:08:18,179
start with your topic John and then

1541
01:08:21,650 --> 01:08:20,219
Anjali and then we'll go through the

1542
01:08:24,050 --> 01:08:21,660
cabbies or would you like to get the

1543
01:08:26,689 --> 01:08:24,060
cabbies uh topics first you don't care

1544
01:08:28,610 --> 01:08:26,699
doesn't matter okay John go ahead and

1545
01:08:30,289 --> 01:08:28,620
start us off we'll go through the guests

1546
01:08:32,030 --> 01:08:30,299
of honor first and then we'll just go

1547
01:08:33,890 --> 01:08:32,040
down through the cabbies and and our

1548
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:33,900
guest cabin tonight Linda

1549
01:08:39,289 --> 01:08:36,560
okay I'm very happy to be here this is

1550
01:08:41,570 --> 01:08:39,299
almost one of my last interviews I'll do

1551
01:08:44,390 --> 01:08:41,580
until after disclosure

1552
01:08:47,410 --> 01:08:44,400
um in this entire week I was

1553
01:08:51,169 --> 01:08:47,420
um involved in a series of talks

1554
01:08:52,930 --> 01:08:51,179
sponsored by Dr Jack sarfati who's a

1555
01:08:55,970 --> 01:08:52,940
physicist who worked with the CIA and

1556
01:08:58,249 --> 01:08:55,980
understands the mechanics and the

1557
01:09:00,470 --> 01:08:58,259
quantum characteristics of of these

1558
01:09:02,809 --> 01:09:00,480
craft and how they work and this morning

1559
01:09:04,610 --> 01:09:02,819
we had a great talk about the

1560
01:09:06,829 --> 01:09:04,620
Consciousness has Quantum

1561
01:09:08,809 --> 01:09:06,839
characteristics and physicists are

1562
01:09:11,930 --> 01:09:08,819
actually working on like a Quantum

1563
01:09:13,870 --> 01:09:11,940
equation to understand Consciousness and

1564
01:09:17,870 --> 01:09:13,880
you're absolutely right about the craft

1565
01:09:19,610 --> 01:09:17,880
having a Consciousness aspect to it and

1566
01:09:21,470 --> 01:09:19,620
the government actually knows that there

1567
01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:21,480
is a Consciousness aspect to the

1568
01:09:26,930 --> 01:09:24,239
phenomenon without the conscious aspect

1569
01:09:28,010 --> 01:09:26,940
all of this makes no sense whatsoever it

1570
01:09:33,330 --> 01:09:28,020
only makes sense when you add

1571
01:09:36,950 --> 01:09:35,269
[Music]

1572
01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:36,960
absolutely right

1573
01:09:43,010 --> 01:09:40,400
that um you know

1574
01:09:44,450 --> 01:09:43,020
right the amount of materials are

1575
01:09:48,349 --> 01:09:44,460
infused with

1576
01:09:50,269 --> 01:09:48,359
um uh wave guides that respond in a very

1577
01:09:52,370 --> 01:09:50,279
small short wavelength uh in the

1578
01:09:54,350 --> 01:09:52,380
terahertz wavelength and something about

1579
01:09:56,689 --> 01:09:54,360
the amount of materials and that freak

1580
01:09:57,490 --> 01:09:56,699
that wavelength of electromagnetic

1581
01:10:01,189 --> 01:09:57,500
energy

1582
01:10:03,890 --> 01:10:01,199
causes uh interesting effects causes it

1583
01:10:06,709 --> 01:10:03,900
to actually have those characteristics

1584
01:10:09,290 --> 01:10:06,719
those five observables using very little

1585
01:10:10,910 --> 01:10:09,300
energy very little energy and that's

1586
01:10:13,250 --> 01:10:10,920
something that's seriously being talked

1587
01:10:14,450 --> 01:10:13,260
about so I'll leave it with that thank

1588
01:10:19,130 --> 01:10:14,460
you

1589
01:10:21,590 --> 01:10:19,140
all right so um I let um so we're gonna

1590
01:10:23,209 --> 01:10:21,600
just comment on that uh because that's

1591
01:10:25,790 --> 01:10:23,219
basically what it is is they're sort of

1592
01:10:29,209 --> 01:10:25,800
like conversation starters so go for me

1593
01:10:31,550 --> 01:10:29,219
Angeline down through the cabbies I you

1594
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:31,560
know this is a this is again what I

1595
01:10:36,410 --> 01:10:33,360
heard from somebody who's an experiencer

1596
01:10:39,709 --> 01:10:36,420
ganga today I believe that Linda knows

1597
01:10:42,050 --> 01:10:39,719
this person uh if I'm not mistaken and

1598
01:10:46,010 --> 01:10:42,060
it sounded very plausible and logical

1599
01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:46,020
because the way that we construct uh

1600
01:10:53,870 --> 01:10:49,440
aircraft and wire them today seems uh

1601
01:10:55,850 --> 01:10:53,880
extremely I guess archaic uh compared to

1602
01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:55,860
what I would think that how the

1603
01:11:02,149 --> 01:10:58,400
phenomenon would transfer information

1604
01:11:04,669 --> 01:11:02,159
signals pulses Direction

1605
01:11:06,169 --> 01:11:04,679
um uh information back and forth

1606
01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:06,179
throughout the craft it would seem to me

1607
01:11:10,970 --> 01:11:08,159
that it would be something like that so

1608
01:11:13,310 --> 01:11:10,980
it's interesting that that is where uh

1609
01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:13,320
that the you've verified that the

1610
01:11:17,270 --> 01:11:16,080
community is headed in that direction

1611
01:11:19,250 --> 01:11:17,280
um go ahead Anjali do you have anything

1612
01:11:22,090 --> 01:11:19,260
on that map

1613
01:11:23,950 --> 01:11:22,100
oh my goodness I mean

1614
01:11:26,930 --> 01:11:23,960
come on

1615
01:11:28,370 --> 01:11:26,940
she's like I've I've designed this in

1616
01:11:33,770 --> 01:11:28,380
the easel in the other room I could draw

1617
01:11:37,250 --> 01:11:35,810
okay I could I could talk for a couple

1618
01:11:39,050 --> 01:11:37,260
of days but

1619
01:11:43,130 --> 01:11:39,060
um I think that everybody's pretty much

1620
01:11:45,050 --> 01:11:43,140
aware of where I stand on on this being

1621
01:12:16,930 --> 01:11:45,060
a

1622
01:12:20,570 --> 01:12:16,940
um

1623
01:12:24,410 --> 01:12:20,580
the the

1624
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:24,420
to

1625
01:12:33,050 --> 01:12:31,440
um and present it in the way that I

1626
01:12:36,169 --> 01:12:33,060
think would be

1627
01:12:38,750 --> 01:12:36,179
um best understood and and I haven't had

1628
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:38,760
a platform to do that you know and so

1629
01:12:43,490 --> 01:12:42,000
let me do now is calling on me you will

1630
01:12:46,250 --> 01:12:43,500
bring you back for the entire hour you

1631
01:12:47,689 --> 01:12:46,260
can talk about it I'm sorry

1632
01:12:50,330 --> 01:12:47,699
so

1633
01:12:52,729 --> 01:12:50,340
um uh I am

1634
01:12:54,669 --> 01:12:52,739
I'm excited to

1635
01:12:57,770 --> 01:12:54,679
to be able to put together

1636
01:13:02,450 --> 01:12:57,780
these really what I what I hope will be

1637
01:13:05,570 --> 01:13:02,460
just explanatory videos with

1638
01:13:07,610 --> 01:13:05,580
um with other guests who will be able to

1639
01:13:10,970 --> 01:13:07,620
add

1640
01:13:14,750 --> 01:13:10,980
um you know their own insights into not

1641
01:13:16,669 --> 01:13:14,760
just my experience but the experience of

1642
01:13:21,830 --> 01:13:16,679
being contacted

1643
01:13:26,450 --> 01:13:21,840
by non-human entities okay so

1644
01:13:33,169 --> 01:13:29,630
without Consciousness there

1645
01:13:35,149 --> 01:13:33,179
there is nothing I mean there's just

1646
01:13:37,610 --> 01:13:35,159
everything is is consciousness that's

1647
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:37,620
what we're doing here

1648
01:13:42,169 --> 01:13:39,920
um just we're learning and growing and

1649
01:13:47,209 --> 01:13:42,179
becoming and realizing that we already

1650
01:13:50,330 --> 01:13:47,219
are and we're we're shedding off layers

1651
01:13:52,189 --> 01:13:50,340
that don't belong to us and we're

1652
01:13:55,130 --> 01:13:52,199
reaffirming what does

1653
01:13:58,070 --> 01:13:55,140
and um I think it's a it's a beautiful

1654
01:14:01,130 --> 01:13:58,080
ride and uh there will be another

1655
01:14:03,649 --> 01:14:01,140
symbols aspect to it but golly gee I'm

1656
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:03,659
I'm really not even kidding when I say

1657
01:14:10,070 --> 01:14:05,520
if that's where you're focusing you are

1658
01:14:11,689 --> 01:14:10,080
missing out uh on on really where the

1659
01:14:13,430 --> 01:14:11,699
bread and butter of all of this is going

1660
01:14:15,890 --> 01:14:13,440
to lead

1661
01:14:17,750 --> 01:14:15,900
yeah just both things are fascinating

1662
01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:17,760
you know to different archetypes you

1663
01:14:21,950 --> 01:14:19,679
know different persons find a different

1664
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:21,960
aspect I I agree with you you know I

1665
01:14:26,209 --> 01:14:24,480
mean that awareness is going and the

1666
01:14:27,649 --> 01:14:26,219
connection between all of us and how

1667
01:14:29,510 --> 01:14:27,659
even they interact with the craft

1668
01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:29,520
Consciousness space but there are some

1669
01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:30,960
people you know that just read Popular

1670
01:14:34,490 --> 01:14:32,880
Science and Popular Mechanics and they

1671
01:14:36,290 --> 01:14:34,500
just want to know how does this Tech

1672
01:14:38,630 --> 01:14:36,300
work I mean that's what makes the world

1673
01:14:40,910 --> 01:14:38,640
go around is we're all different

1674
01:14:42,590 --> 01:14:40,920
um Nathan uh go ahead brother you want

1675
01:14:44,330 --> 01:14:42,600
to react to that real quick sure

1676
01:14:46,189 --> 01:14:44,340
actually and I kind of I'm just going to

1677
01:14:48,530 --> 01:14:46,199
connect it up with my own topic because

1678
01:14:51,169 --> 01:14:48,540
I think it's pretty similar I mean if if

1679
01:14:53,209 --> 01:14:51,179
what we're looking at here is an

1680
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:53,219
upending of reality as we know it which

1681
01:14:56,990 --> 01:14:55,199
I think many of us would argue that's

1682
01:14:59,450 --> 01:14:57,000
exactly what's happening that the world

1683
01:15:01,550 --> 01:14:59,460
that we thought we understood is not the

1684
01:15:04,370 --> 01:15:01,560
way we understood it that reality is far

1685
01:15:06,050 --> 01:15:04,380
more complicated uh that it is far more

1686
01:15:08,450 --> 01:15:06,060
diverse that is teeming with life and

1687
01:15:10,610 --> 01:15:08,460
intelligence not just those that are on

1688
01:15:13,430 --> 01:15:10,620
a similar level of intelligence that

1689
01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:13,440
that we are other embodied beings but

1690
01:15:18,229 --> 01:15:15,840
those that aren't embodied and all in

1691
01:15:20,090 --> 01:15:18,239
between it's it's a a very sort of big

1692
01:15:23,090 --> 01:15:20,100
Zoo if you will

1693
01:15:26,090 --> 01:15:23,100
um how difficult is it going to be

1694
01:15:28,430 --> 01:15:26,100
for the average person to really get all

1695
01:15:29,149 --> 01:15:28,440
of that how much time is it going to

1696
01:15:32,270 --> 01:15:29,159
take

1697
01:15:33,890 --> 01:15:32,280
in your estimation to understand that

1698
01:15:36,649 --> 01:15:33,900
multifaceted

1699
01:15:39,770 --> 01:15:36,659
reality if in fact that is

1700
01:15:42,290 --> 01:15:39,780
what we are stepping toward

1701
01:15:44,990 --> 01:15:42,300
okay Debs that goes to you my friend

1702
01:15:47,090 --> 01:15:45,000
and then it'll go all the way around the

1703
01:15:48,830 --> 01:15:47,100
okay so I have to say that I have a

1704
01:15:51,110 --> 01:15:48,840
materialistic view of Consciousness

1705
01:15:54,169 --> 01:15:51,120
which is annoying to some people who

1706
01:15:58,250 --> 01:15:54,179
don't but I actually do think that

1707
01:15:59,990 --> 01:15:58,260
wavelengths light sound frequency em

1708
01:16:01,669 --> 01:16:00,000
terahertz

1709
01:16:04,250 --> 01:16:01,679
um that waveguide you were talking about

1710
01:16:06,290 --> 01:16:04,260
they're all intrical to all of this when

1711
01:16:08,810 --> 01:16:06,300
people talk about raising your vibration

1712
01:16:12,550 --> 01:16:08,820
and all that they don't even realize how

1713
01:16:14,990 --> 01:16:12,560
important that is because with these

1714
01:16:18,310 --> 01:16:15,000
wavelengths we can reach all the way

1715
01:16:20,510 --> 01:16:18,320
across the universe they just keep going

1716
01:16:23,090 --> 01:16:20,520
wavelengths control whether or not

1717
01:16:26,270 --> 01:16:23,100
something's even matter or sound or

1718
01:16:28,490 --> 01:16:26,280
light it goes back and forth so I think

1719
01:16:29,930 --> 01:16:28,500
that that is going to be the secret and

1720
01:16:32,030 --> 01:16:29,940
then I think once people really

1721
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:32,040
understand that and they see that it's

1722
01:16:36,950 --> 01:16:35,040
not magic that it's a real scientific

1723
01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:36,960
thing because we're going to get it with

1724
01:16:41,930 --> 01:16:39,120
Quantum Computing and we're going to get

1725
01:16:44,570 --> 01:16:41,940
it with other examples as people keep

1726
01:16:47,330 --> 01:16:44,580
playing with it then they'll be able to

1727
01:16:49,430 --> 01:16:47,340
accept it as reality as you were saying

1728
01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:49,440
Nathan I'm tying it back to your

1729
01:16:53,450 --> 01:16:51,120
statement I think that when they

1730
01:16:55,010 --> 01:16:53,460
understand the science they'll

1731
01:16:56,450 --> 01:16:55,020
understand what's going on a little

1732
01:17:00,590 --> 01:16:56,460
better

1733
01:17:02,750 --> 01:17:00,600
awesome and uh so let's go to on this uh

1734
01:17:04,490 --> 01:17:02,760
we could go to Jules what what would you

1735
01:17:07,550 --> 01:17:04,500
like to say about Nathan's topic then

1736
01:17:12,110 --> 01:17:09,530
I think that they're going to have to

1737
01:17:14,270 --> 01:17:12,120
accept that dark matter is real

1738
01:17:17,209 --> 01:17:14,280
I think they're going to have to accept

1739
01:17:20,030 --> 01:17:17,219
that dark matter phenomenon has a lot to

1740
01:17:22,930 --> 01:17:20,040
do with all of this the Consciousness

1741
01:17:26,390 --> 01:17:22,940
aspect of it the manifestation

1742
01:17:28,250 --> 01:17:26,400
Consciousness underlies all matter

1743
01:17:30,350 --> 01:17:28,260
and

1744
01:17:33,410 --> 01:17:30,360
I believe that there is an entity

1745
01:17:35,630 --> 01:17:33,420
whether it be Mother Earth or some alien

1746
01:17:38,030 --> 01:17:35,640
civilization that can manipulate this

1747
01:17:40,430 --> 01:17:38,040
dark matter and it can make things

1748
01:17:43,090 --> 01:17:40,440
disappear it can make things appear it

1749
01:17:45,010 --> 01:17:43,100
can travel through time and dimensions

1750
01:17:47,330 --> 01:17:45,020
it it

1751
01:17:49,850 --> 01:17:47,340
explains an awful lot of everything

1752
01:17:52,550 --> 01:17:49,860
including the cold spots because it

1753
01:17:56,510 --> 01:17:52,560
sucks all the energy out before as it's

1754
01:17:59,330 --> 01:17:56,520
manifesting it is it I really think that

1755
01:18:03,590 --> 01:17:59,340
science is going to have to just man up

1756
01:18:07,550 --> 01:18:03,600
and say dark matter is real and quantum

1757
01:18:09,830 --> 01:18:07,560
mechanics is real and this is how

1758
01:18:11,090 --> 01:18:09,840
reality is just forget what you were

1759
01:18:14,390 --> 01:18:11,100
told

1760
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:14,400
that's my opinion Dr Hein is so excited

1761
01:18:18,530 --> 01:18:16,080
right now that you just did the seasons

1762
01:18:20,390 --> 01:18:18,540
apartment go yeah right on girl that's

1763
01:18:22,030 --> 01:18:20,400
what I told you that's right you're out

1764
01:18:25,490 --> 01:18:22,040
here Martin

1765
01:18:28,910 --> 01:18:25,500
Fleischman Memorial project man

1766
01:18:33,649 --> 01:18:28,920
Martin Fleischman Memorial project

1767
01:18:36,350 --> 01:18:33,659
Linda uh how difficult uh will it be to

1768
01:18:38,090 --> 01:18:36,360
understand how much time will it take uh

1769
01:18:40,130 --> 01:18:38,100
for people to and if I understand tell

1770
01:18:43,130 --> 01:18:40,140
me if I got this wrong Nathan for people

1771
01:18:45,410 --> 01:18:43,140
to accept the multiple Dimensions that

1772
01:18:47,510 --> 01:18:45,420
the reality is beyond what they can just

1773
01:18:49,250 --> 01:18:47,520
see and feel and taste and hear and

1774
01:18:51,470 --> 01:18:49,260
touch is that correct Nathan you got it

1775
01:18:53,530 --> 01:18:51,480
brother okay

1776
01:18:57,649 --> 01:18:53,540
gosh I don't know

1777
01:19:00,110 --> 01:18:57,659
I mean if you take and I just there's so

1778
01:19:01,970 --> 01:19:00,120
many dimensions I don't exclude anything

1779
01:19:03,770 --> 01:19:01,980
in this

1780
01:19:06,310 --> 01:19:03,780
um we all

1781
01:19:11,149 --> 01:19:06,320
I think we all

1782
01:19:14,149 --> 01:19:11,159
intuitively in us realize

1783
01:19:16,189 --> 01:19:14,159
this Consciousness and realize that

1784
01:19:20,149 --> 01:19:16,199
there's different dimensions and

1785
01:19:22,370 --> 01:19:20,159
vibrations and frequencies but

1786
01:19:31,370 --> 01:19:25,850
we're so used to using other terminology

1787
01:19:35,270 --> 01:19:31,380
and other things to describe it you know

1788
01:19:39,169 --> 01:19:35,280
it's like feelings or gut reactions or

1789
01:19:41,270 --> 01:19:39,179
you know something's not right today or

1790
01:19:43,850 --> 01:19:41,280
whatever I mean that's the kind of stuff

1791
01:19:45,590 --> 01:19:43,860
you hear at offices all the time when

1792
01:19:49,490 --> 01:19:45,600
you're talking with people

1793
01:19:52,010 --> 01:19:49,500
so they're basically all sensing these

1794
01:19:56,090 --> 01:19:52,020
things they just don't have the language

1795
01:19:56,689 --> 01:19:56,100
or framework to put it in so

1796
01:19:59,530 --> 01:19:56,699
um

1797
01:20:02,209 --> 01:19:59,540
you know I think

1798
01:20:06,850 --> 01:20:02,219
everybody's different but I just say

1799
01:20:10,250 --> 01:20:06,860
don't make it an age situation because

1800
01:20:14,390 --> 01:20:10,260
age I don't think has anything to do

1801
01:20:15,830 --> 01:20:14,400
with this at all and that's one of my

1802
01:20:16,430 --> 01:20:15,840
concerns

1803
01:20:20,870 --> 01:20:16,440
um

1804
01:20:24,649 --> 01:20:20,880
you know so yeah it's all

1805
01:20:28,130 --> 01:20:24,659
Consciousness and quantum

1806
01:20:29,149 --> 01:20:28,140
it's just all together

1807
01:20:32,209 --> 01:20:29,159
John

1808
01:20:38,149 --> 01:20:34,610
how difficult how much time will it take

1809
01:20:40,970 --> 01:20:38,159
before people will accept the nature

1810
01:20:43,490 --> 01:20:40,980
that that there's a reality Beyond with

1811
01:20:46,970 --> 01:20:43,500
their sensing well I don't think of that

1812
01:20:48,410 --> 01:20:46,980
that long I think it'll uh within our

1813
01:20:52,189 --> 01:20:48,420
lifetimes

1814
01:20:54,130 --> 01:20:52,199
um I think the uh science science will

1815
01:20:55,970 --> 01:20:54,140
have to rewrite everything

1816
01:20:57,050 --> 01:20:55,980
philosophy will have to rethink

1817
01:20:59,209 --> 01:20:57,060
everything

1818
01:21:01,910 --> 01:20:59,219
and religions will have to re-preach

1819
01:21:03,709 --> 01:21:01,920
everything because what we think is real

1820
01:21:08,450 --> 01:21:03,719
has not been real

1821
01:21:13,010 --> 01:21:11,810
it without the Consciousness aspect of

1822
01:21:16,189 --> 01:21:13,020
any of this

1823
01:21:17,870 --> 01:21:16,199
um we can't make it work and so here's

1824
01:21:19,689 --> 01:21:17,880
these physicists this morning in Dr

1825
01:21:22,189 --> 01:21:19,699
Safari's group

1826
01:21:24,169 --> 01:21:22,199
who were talking about you know how

1827
01:21:25,850 --> 01:21:24,179
essential it is for Consciousness to

1828
01:21:27,649 --> 01:21:25,860
explain the phenomena

1829
01:21:29,390 --> 01:21:27,659
and these are physicists who are on The

1830
01:21:32,570 --> 01:21:29,400
Cutting Edge right and they're working

1831
01:21:34,130 --> 01:21:32,580
on like equations to make that happen

1832
01:21:35,810 --> 01:21:34,140
because you know they're still

1833
01:21:37,130 --> 01:21:35,820
physicists and they need to write

1834
01:21:39,649 --> 01:21:37,140
equations they need to formulate

1835
01:21:42,669 --> 01:21:39,659
equations to you know make it turn into

1836
01:21:45,110 --> 01:21:42,679
whatever whatever equals zero you know

1837
01:21:46,729 --> 01:21:45,120
and that's the goal of like theoretical

1838
01:21:49,550 --> 01:21:46,739
physics you got to get back to zero

1839
01:21:52,010 --> 01:21:49,560
somehow but they're doing a tremendous

1840
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:52,020
amount of work and uh I know um they're

1841
01:21:58,610 --> 01:21:55,440
publishing these uh lectures

1842
01:22:02,890 --> 01:21:58,620
um I think uh through Ventura

1843
01:22:05,390 --> 01:22:02,900
and so through Tim Ventura's uh uh

1844
01:22:07,189 --> 01:22:05,400
Outlets you know you can you can see

1845
01:22:09,169 --> 01:22:07,199
this morning's lecture but it was it was

1846
01:22:11,630 --> 01:22:09,179
really brilliantly portrayed

1847
01:22:13,610 --> 01:22:11,640
of how they're thinking about it and so

1848
01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:13,620
that's the only comment I have and oh I

1849
01:22:18,169 --> 01:22:15,360
just want to leave with

1850
01:22:20,330 --> 01:22:18,179
um to Jules um you know this we used to

1851
01:22:24,410 --> 01:22:20,340
be a matriarchal world

1852
01:22:26,990 --> 01:22:24,420
until uh everything turned upside down

1853
01:22:29,330 --> 01:22:27,000
and uh so I don't blame any particular

1854
01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:29,340
religion uh but you know I used to be

1855
01:22:34,430 --> 01:22:31,440
Catholic I'm a Catholic and Perpetual

1856
01:22:36,530 --> 01:22:34,440
recovery and a lot of that patriarchy

1857
01:22:37,970 --> 01:22:36,540
came through there you know and we used

1858
01:22:40,430 --> 01:22:37,980
to be matriarchal

1859
01:22:42,350 --> 01:22:40,440
that's right and I think we go back one

1860
01:22:44,450 --> 01:22:42,360
of the things we might see is we'll turn

1861
01:22:46,130 --> 01:22:44,460
into a matriarchal globe

1862
01:22:47,990 --> 01:22:46,140
to in order to make any kind of progress

1863
01:22:50,149 --> 01:22:48,000
and at least have peace

1864
01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:50,159
well men have screwed it up uh royalty

1865
01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:52,400
oh yeah

1866
01:22:57,490 --> 01:22:55,679
uh anjalisa I think that would be a

1867
01:22:59,270 --> 01:22:57,500
beautiful thing

1868
01:23:01,910 --> 01:22:59,280
thank you

1869
01:23:04,669 --> 01:23:01,920
um Anjali so how how difficult uh will

1870
01:23:06,169 --> 01:23:04,679
it be how long will it take uh for

1871
01:23:07,790 --> 01:23:06,179
people to accept that there's an

1872
01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:07,800
alternate reality that's the nature of

1873
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:18,950
um

1874
01:23:23,270 --> 01:23:20,149
I think

1875
01:23:25,370 --> 01:23:23,280
that there's a possibility

1876
01:23:29,689 --> 01:23:25,380
that it

1877
01:23:32,450 --> 01:23:29,699
won't take more than a few seconds

1878
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:32,460
um to realize that

1879
01:23:39,530 --> 01:23:36,719
you need to let go of some really tight

1880
01:23:42,649 --> 01:23:39,540
paradigms that you've been hoping on to

1881
01:23:44,090 --> 01:23:42,659
I think it literally happens in a Split

1882
01:23:46,910 --> 01:23:44,100
Second

1883
01:23:48,169 --> 01:23:46,920
what happens for you beyond that that's

1884
01:23:48,709 --> 01:23:48,179
really

1885
01:23:50,990 --> 01:23:48,719
um

1886
01:23:53,229 --> 01:23:51,000
that's a different subject you know

1887
01:23:57,530 --> 01:23:53,239
that's where

1888
01:24:00,530 --> 01:23:57,540
mindfulness and uh being centered and

1889
01:24:01,370 --> 01:24:00,540
grounded is going to be so important for

1890
01:24:03,110 --> 01:24:01,380
you

1891
01:24:07,310 --> 01:24:03,120
um or for every one of us

1892
01:24:09,410 --> 01:24:07,320
um because it is it is

1893
01:24:11,149 --> 01:24:09,420
um how do I put it it's I guess

1894
01:24:16,390 --> 01:24:11,159
discombobulating

1895
01:24:19,850 --> 01:24:16,400
of a sudden you know we're going to have

1896
01:24:21,890 --> 01:24:19,860
a a press conference and beings come

1897
01:24:24,169 --> 01:24:21,900
forward and they introduce themselves

1898
01:24:29,890 --> 01:24:24,179
and we're all just sitting at our TVs

1899
01:24:34,669 --> 01:24:32,450
no that's not what it's going to be like

1900
01:24:37,550 --> 01:24:34,679
okay in

1901
01:24:40,250 --> 01:24:37,560
um you you will know

1902
01:24:42,110 --> 01:24:40,260
um they will they will speak to you

1903
01:24:42,770 --> 01:24:42,120
um you will see them

1904
01:24:46,310 --> 01:24:42,780
um

1905
01:24:48,050 --> 01:24:46,320
and how when

1906
01:24:50,570 --> 01:24:48,060
guys I don't know

1907
01:24:53,870 --> 01:24:50,580
but they

1908
01:24:56,810 --> 01:24:53,880
they give the impression that it will

1909
01:25:00,250 --> 01:24:56,820
happen quickly it will be Swift

1910
01:25:04,250 --> 01:25:00,260
and that's why they're trying

1911
01:25:06,530 --> 01:25:04,260
to warn us in a sense that we need to

1912
01:25:08,990 --> 01:25:06,540
prepare consciously

1913
01:25:11,090 --> 01:25:09,000
um because it can be incredibly

1914
01:25:14,270 --> 01:25:11,100
discombobulating

1915
01:25:16,250 --> 01:25:14,280
um and uh you know we can have some

1916
01:25:18,050 --> 01:25:16,260
pretty fragile psyches in these bodies

1917
01:25:19,790 --> 01:25:18,060
and um

1918
01:25:26,750 --> 01:25:19,800
it would be

1919
01:25:29,030 --> 01:25:26,760
some sort of grounding spiritual

1920
01:25:31,130 --> 01:25:29,040
practice what that looks like for you

1921
01:25:34,490 --> 01:25:31,140
you know I that's none of my business

1922
01:25:37,070 --> 01:25:34,500
that it really isn't that's in in an

1923
01:25:39,470 --> 01:25:37,080
individual decision

1924
01:25:42,770 --> 01:25:39,480
um and I'm not suggesting you take up a

1925
01:25:45,229 --> 01:25:42,780
religious practice okay I'm suggest you

1926
01:25:47,750 --> 01:25:45,239
to take up a spiritual practice where

1927
01:25:51,470 --> 01:25:47,760
you Ponder the nature of your own

1928
01:25:53,810 --> 01:25:51,480
existence the nature of the source of

1929
01:25:55,250 --> 01:25:53,820
Consciousness just start with those two

1930
01:25:57,530 --> 01:25:55,260
questions you don't have to get any

1931
01:25:59,930 --> 01:25:57,540
deeper than that just start with those

1932
01:26:03,370 --> 01:25:59,940
two questions and that that's pretty

1933
01:26:07,550 --> 01:26:05,870
I'm gonna tell you though Nathan I would

1934
01:26:10,370 --> 01:26:07,560
love to send them at you I would love to

1935
01:26:13,310 --> 01:26:10,380
see Chris Bledsoe Anjali and John go

1936
01:26:15,610 --> 01:26:13,320
like on a just a nighttime fishing trip

1937
01:26:19,250 --> 01:26:15,620
wouldn't you oh my God

1938
01:26:22,030 --> 01:26:19,260
yeah I'll fly on that wall fishing those

1939
01:26:28,070 --> 01:26:26,810
to use any actual hooks yeah you don't

1940
01:26:30,649 --> 01:26:28,080
have to you know you could just be out

1941
01:26:32,990 --> 01:26:30,659
there with the net okay yeah we need to

1942
01:26:34,129 --> 01:26:33,000
get you know Chris Angeline John go on a

1943
01:26:36,110 --> 01:26:34,139
fishing trip and then I want to hear

1944
01:26:39,290 --> 01:26:36,120
what happened after that

1945
01:26:41,330 --> 01:26:39,300
um okay so so it's it's down to me and

1946
01:26:42,770 --> 01:26:41,340
Nathan I think uh in answer to your

1947
01:26:44,149 --> 01:26:42,780
question I think it's going to run the

1948
01:26:46,550 --> 01:26:44,159
gamut

1949
01:26:49,189 --> 01:26:46,560
um I think uh you know if you you know

1950
01:26:51,530 --> 01:26:49,199
present company and folks that are sort

1951
01:26:54,169 --> 01:26:51,540
of like us and are sort of tribe of the

1952
01:26:56,689 --> 01:26:54,179
phenomenon or are very much ready to

1953
01:26:58,430 --> 01:26:56,699
accept uh what the nature of reality is

1954
01:27:01,010 --> 01:26:58,440
that we have not yet seen nor

1955
01:27:04,189 --> 01:27:01,020
experienced but are are welcome and open

1956
01:27:06,709 --> 01:27:04,199
to and I think something that Lynn Linda

1957
01:27:08,030 --> 01:27:06,719
may have alluded to is that you know

1958
01:27:10,010 --> 01:27:08,040
maybe some people are actually just

1959
01:27:12,470 --> 01:27:10,020
suppressing that that they believe that

1960
01:27:14,330 --> 01:27:12,480
this exists and there is a nature of

1961
01:27:16,490 --> 01:27:14,340
reality that they haven't experience

1962
01:27:17,930 --> 01:27:16,500
they believe it's out there but they

1963
01:27:19,669 --> 01:27:17,940
suppress it they don't want to talk

1964
01:27:22,610 --> 01:27:19,679
about it it's these things you don't

1965
01:27:25,310 --> 01:27:22,620
tell your friends at work about actually

1966
01:27:27,950 --> 01:27:25,320
earlier you know during some of anjali's

1967
01:27:30,950 --> 01:27:27,960
commentary talking about people in the

1968
01:27:33,229 --> 01:27:30,960
IC the culture and the climate that

1969
01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:33,239
exists there is an enormous amount of

1970
01:27:37,310 --> 01:27:35,040
Courage that would be necessary for

1971
01:27:39,590 --> 01:27:37,320
somebody to come out and say hey I need

1972
01:27:42,350 --> 01:27:39,600
to be interviewed about this I've had

1973
01:27:44,870 --> 01:27:42,360
experiences or I've experienced a

1974
01:27:48,310 --> 01:27:44,880
different part of reality that is very

1975
01:27:50,870 --> 01:27:48,320
very and John knows this I know this

1976
01:27:52,610 --> 01:27:50,880
Anjali knows this it's very difficult in

1977
01:27:54,169 --> 01:27:52,620
that climate to do that because now the

1978
01:27:57,050 --> 01:27:54,179
sudden you're different

1979
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:57,060
so I think it's going to happen all

1980
01:28:04,129 --> 01:28:00,960
along the Spectrum Nathan until some

1981
01:28:06,530 --> 01:28:04,139
sort of irrefutable event happens that

1982
01:28:11,149 --> 01:28:06,540
is covered so widely that it can't be

1983
01:28:12,950 --> 01:28:11,159
ignored and then uh I think you know

1984
01:28:14,629 --> 01:28:12,960
there's going to be parts of society

1985
01:28:18,110 --> 01:28:14,639
that are going to have a lot of issues

1986
01:28:19,850 --> 01:28:18,120
with it probably most of society will

1987
01:28:22,850 --> 01:28:19,860
have a lot of issues with it because we

1988
01:28:24,410 --> 01:28:22,860
are the minority and not the majority

1989
01:28:26,810 --> 01:28:24,420
um and then there'll be sort of that

1990
01:28:28,910 --> 01:28:26,820
Center group that kind of thinks about

1991
01:28:30,530 --> 01:28:28,920
this but don't talk about it and then

1992
01:28:33,229 --> 01:28:30,540
there's going to be a group that you

1993
01:28:36,290 --> 01:28:33,239
know probably a a predominant group that

1994
01:28:38,689 --> 01:28:36,300
has no idea this exists and when or

1995
01:28:40,850 --> 01:28:38,699
they're confronted with it are going to

1996
01:28:43,610 --> 01:28:40,860
find it very difficult to manage that

1997
01:28:47,270 --> 01:28:43,620
that's my thought

1998
01:28:49,970 --> 01:28:47,280
all right uh was that okay Nathan

1999
01:28:52,370 --> 01:28:49,980
no it was great thank you okay let's go

2000
01:28:54,410 --> 01:28:52,380
to uh debs's topic and that one will go

2001
01:28:57,050 --> 01:28:54,420
around the room I feel like this is

2002
01:28:59,570 --> 01:28:57,060
actually tied in a little bit one of the

2003
01:29:01,910 --> 01:28:59,580
hardest things for

2004
01:29:05,570 --> 01:29:01,920
um people to accept is that experiencers

2005
01:29:08,030 --> 01:29:05,580
are having encounters with entities

2006
01:29:10,129 --> 01:29:08,040
um going back to what rupolt said that

2007
01:29:11,689 --> 01:29:10,139
when that was mentioned they essentially

2008
01:29:15,050 --> 01:29:11,699
took those reports and put them in the

2009
01:29:17,570 --> 01:29:15,060
trash he said that in his book when you

2010
01:29:19,189 --> 01:29:17,580
take a look at John Mack people said oh

2011
01:29:21,110 --> 01:29:19,199
you've gone native and they try to get

2012
01:29:25,310 --> 01:29:21,120
him out of Harvard

2013
01:29:28,430 --> 01:29:25,320
um do we think considering that the ndaa

2014
01:29:30,370 --> 01:29:28,440
did specify the physiological effects

2015
01:29:33,890 --> 01:29:30,380
and psychiatric effects would be

2016
01:29:37,550 --> 01:29:33,900
researched but Arrow hasn't mentioned

2017
01:29:39,709 --> 01:29:37,560
experiences one iota since

2018
01:29:43,129 --> 01:29:39,719
that the time for the experiencer has

2019
01:29:45,470 --> 01:29:43,139
come yet or is it also still being

2020
01:29:47,629 --> 01:29:45,480
thrown in the trash can

2021
01:29:50,510 --> 01:29:47,639
okay so the question is to just

2022
01:29:53,090 --> 01:29:50,520
contextualize it into a question is has

2023
01:29:54,950 --> 01:29:53,100
the time come for the experiencer in

2024
01:29:56,750 --> 01:29:54,960
terms of the icr has it just been thrown

2025
01:29:58,729 --> 01:29:56,760
in the trash can is that the question

2026
01:30:01,430 --> 01:29:58,739
that's what I'm concerned about because

2027
01:30:03,470 --> 01:30:01,440
it just seems to be the pattern and I

2028
01:30:06,229 --> 01:30:03,480
think it needs to change

2029
01:30:08,570 --> 01:30:06,239
okay so if that's going to Julie first

2030
01:30:11,030 --> 01:30:08,580
and then it'll go Linda and John and

2031
01:30:13,010 --> 01:30:11,040
Anjali and then uh myself and Nathan go

2032
01:30:14,450 --> 01:30:13,020
ahead Jules

2033
01:30:17,930 --> 01:30:14,460
what do you think they're considering

2034
01:30:20,629 --> 01:30:17,940
about experiences right now in the IC

2035
01:30:23,330 --> 01:30:20,639
I think they are trying to keep us out

2036
01:30:27,430 --> 01:30:23,340
of it as much as they possibly can

2037
01:30:30,770 --> 01:30:27,440
I don't think they are ready to face

2038
01:30:34,370 --> 01:30:30,780
experiencers at all

2039
01:30:35,629 --> 01:30:34,380
um it's time for us yes indeed

2040
01:30:38,330 --> 01:30:35,639
but

2041
01:30:41,270 --> 01:30:38,340
I have no idea how we're going to get

2042
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:41,280
everybody on the same page even talking

2043
01:30:45,649 --> 01:30:42,480
about

2044
01:30:48,410 --> 01:30:45,659
things being actually real let alone

2045
01:30:52,250 --> 01:30:48,420
things actually being interacting with

2046
01:30:54,470 --> 01:30:52,260
people you know it it it

2047
01:30:56,030 --> 01:30:54,480
I have I have no clue how we're going to

2048
01:31:00,290 --> 01:30:56,040
do that that was going to be one of my

2049
01:31:02,930 --> 01:31:00,300
questions to to UIC people because I

2050
01:31:05,930 --> 01:31:02,940
don't know you can't throw Jewels right

2051
01:31:07,390 --> 01:31:05,940
we're human so you know that we are not

2052
01:31:10,610 --> 01:31:07,400
given to that that's not going to happen

2053
01:31:14,350 --> 01:31:10,620
just look at you yeah

2054
01:31:18,169 --> 01:31:14,360
I know I know and and

2055
01:31:20,689 --> 01:31:18,179
it it it boggles my mind and I don't

2056
01:31:23,390 --> 01:31:20,699
know how it's going to happen that that

2057
01:31:25,430 --> 01:31:23,400
they actually bring us

2058
01:31:27,770 --> 01:31:25,440
into the fold because right now we're

2059
01:31:29,689 --> 01:31:27,780
not in the fold experiencers aren't they

2060
01:31:33,169 --> 01:31:29,699
are trying their best just to push us

2061
01:31:34,669 --> 01:31:33,179
aside in a Corral and and not pay any

2062
01:31:37,070 --> 01:31:34,679
attention to us

2063
01:31:40,629 --> 01:31:37,080
as much as they possibly can

2064
01:31:46,250 --> 01:31:40,639
at least that's how I see it and and

2065
01:31:48,110 --> 01:31:46,260
I in my opinion you know we are it we

2066
01:31:50,450 --> 01:31:48,120
are the ones that this stuff has been

2067
01:31:54,350 --> 01:31:50,460
trying to interact with all our lives

2068
01:31:56,390 --> 01:31:54,360
and we're the ones who can help others

2069
01:31:59,149 --> 01:31:56,400
when they get interacted with because

2070
01:32:01,729 --> 01:31:59,159
we've been dealing with it for all our

2071
01:32:04,430 --> 01:32:01,739
lives you know we've already had the

2072
01:32:06,830 --> 01:32:04,440
ontological shock we've already had the

2073
01:32:09,470 --> 01:32:06,840
the pondering of the nature of reality

2074
01:32:11,709 --> 01:32:09,480
we've already had the spiritual

2075
01:32:15,770 --> 01:32:11,719
you know

2076
01:32:17,930 --> 01:32:15,780
desperation Dark Souls of the night and

2077
01:32:20,330 --> 01:32:17,940
all that and and hopefully come through

2078
01:32:21,830 --> 01:32:20,340
the other side without being insane you

2079
01:32:24,890 --> 01:32:21,840
know what I mean

2080
01:32:26,930 --> 01:32:24,900
and just one thing Jules whenever

2081
01:32:29,570 --> 01:32:26,940
someone says ontological shock on the

2082
01:32:34,270 --> 01:32:29,580
show everybody say XO and just go like

2083
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:39,669
definitely excellent yeah

2084
01:32:47,930 --> 01:32:43,790
that's how I feel about it thank you

2085
01:32:53,390 --> 01:32:47,940
love I appreciate it Linda excellent

2086
01:32:54,830 --> 01:32:53,400
Jilly's on fire tonight yes she is okay

2087
01:32:59,030 --> 01:32:54,840
um

2088
01:33:02,149 --> 01:32:59,040
okay so I'm a mama bear when it comes to

2089
01:33:04,669 --> 01:33:02,159
protecting abductees and experiencers

2090
01:33:08,030 --> 01:33:04,679
and

2091
01:33:09,530 --> 01:33:08,040
I get very concerned

2092
01:33:13,209 --> 01:33:09,540
um because

2093
01:33:16,129 --> 01:33:13,219
I refuse to be treated as a guinea pig

2094
01:33:19,010 --> 01:33:16,139
and to be

2095
01:33:22,729 --> 01:33:19,020
treated like I'm some kind of Lab Rat

2096
01:33:25,550 --> 01:33:22,739
and I do not want abductees and

2097
01:33:30,770 --> 01:33:25,560
experiencers to be treated that way

2098
01:33:34,370 --> 01:33:30,780
I do believe based on very old documents

2099
01:33:37,850 --> 01:33:34,380
in the CI papers and other papers that

2100
01:33:42,010 --> 01:33:37,860
they are concerned about us

2101
01:33:43,550 --> 01:33:42,020
as far as what we're capable of doing

2102
01:33:44,330 --> 01:33:43,560
and

2103
01:33:47,629 --> 01:33:44,340
um

2104
01:33:50,209 --> 01:33:47,639
and I you know talking about the

2105
01:33:53,510 --> 01:33:50,219
collective Consciousness

2106
01:33:55,370 --> 01:33:53,520
um I don't know if you've ever been in a

2107
01:33:56,689 --> 01:33:55,380
room of

2108
01:33:58,570 --> 01:33:56,699
um

2109
01:34:01,430 --> 01:33:58,580
ah

2110
01:34:03,850 --> 01:34:01,440
abductees and experiencers that are

2111
01:34:06,649 --> 01:34:03,860
really tied in together

2112
01:34:09,250 --> 01:34:06,659
collectively but there's some really

2113
01:34:11,390 --> 01:34:09,260
bizarre things that can happen

2114
01:34:15,830 --> 01:34:11,400
you know

2115
01:34:17,810 --> 01:34:15,840
um I mean electricity everything and so

2116
01:34:19,209 --> 01:34:17,820
I don't think they really want to piss

2117
01:34:24,610 --> 01:34:19,219
us off

2118
01:34:27,649 --> 01:34:24,620
may not go well but anyway

2119
01:34:29,750 --> 01:34:27,659
I love it I don't want to piss you off

2120
01:34:32,390 --> 01:34:29,760
either uh let's go to John and then

2121
01:34:37,430 --> 01:34:32,400
Anjali and then Nathan or myself and

2122
01:34:42,830 --> 01:34:40,490
unmute uh it may surprise you that in

2123
01:34:45,530 --> 01:34:42,840
the odni there's a Microsoft surepoint

2124
01:34:48,470 --> 01:34:45,540
server which is the top secret SEI

2125
01:34:50,629 --> 01:34:48,480
equivalent of UFO Twitter where people

2126
01:34:52,189 --> 01:34:50,639
in the IC can post their experiences

2127
01:34:55,070 --> 01:34:52,199
you'd be surprised what's in that

2128
01:34:57,890 --> 01:34:55,080
database uh one of the people who came

2129
01:35:04,250 --> 01:34:57,900
forward recently wrote a letter to Mr

2130
01:35:07,729 --> 01:35:04,260
James Fox of the marina Brazil film Fame

2131
01:35:10,250 --> 01:35:07,739
um and he was uh sharing his experiences

2132
01:35:11,870 --> 01:35:10,260
in that and they found out about it and

2133
01:35:13,970 --> 01:35:11,880
you know they they talked to him and

2134
01:35:16,189 --> 01:35:13,980
they considered him serious and I'll

2135
01:35:17,810 --> 01:35:16,199
just leave it at that so um if you think

2136
01:35:19,370 --> 01:35:17,820
that

2137
01:35:20,570 --> 01:35:19,380
um the US government doesn't know about

2138
01:35:23,149 --> 01:35:20,580
experiences

2139
01:35:25,610 --> 01:35:23,159
um I said it before that outside of a

2140
01:35:27,169 --> 01:35:25,620
UFO convention or conference

2141
01:35:28,790 --> 01:35:27,179
um the most experiences I've ever met

2142
01:35:31,910 --> 01:35:28,800
were inside the intelligence community

2143
01:35:33,950 --> 01:35:31,920
and there are many many many of them and

2144
01:35:36,050 --> 01:35:33,960
many of them will be coming forward I

2145
01:35:38,209 --> 01:35:36,060
would say uh at least

2146
01:35:40,430 --> 01:35:38,219
four or more dozen people you'll hear

2147
01:35:43,910 --> 01:35:40,440
from uh toward the end of the year who

2148
01:35:46,189 --> 01:35:43,920
are who have had some encounters and

2149
01:35:47,390 --> 01:35:46,199
experiences with this phenomenon and

2150
01:35:48,950 --> 01:35:47,400
they're going to be very Frank about it

2151
01:35:52,430 --> 01:35:48,960
so

2152
01:35:54,410 --> 01:35:52,440
um yes we are taking seriously and uh

2153
01:35:56,270 --> 01:35:54,420
we're not treated

2154
01:35:59,330 --> 01:35:56,280
um as if there's something wrong with us

2155
01:36:03,169 --> 01:35:59,340
great um and actually uh The Havana

2156
01:36:04,550 --> 01:36:03,179
syndrome and skinwalker uh hitchhiker

2157
01:36:08,030 --> 01:36:04,560
effect

2158
01:36:10,010 --> 01:36:08,040
um they they are like strange high

2159
01:36:11,990 --> 01:36:10,020
strangeness experiences

2160
01:36:13,610 --> 01:36:12,000
um and so you know they were taken

2161
01:36:16,790 --> 01:36:13,620
seriously maybe not at first but later

2162
01:36:18,830 --> 01:36:16,800
on they were and so I would say that you

2163
01:36:21,410 --> 01:36:18,840
know from the government standpoint

2164
01:36:24,050 --> 01:36:21,420
um they are aware that an encounter with

2165
01:36:26,090 --> 01:36:24,060
the phenomenon will result in some kind

2166
01:36:29,209 --> 01:36:26,100
of experience let's go to bed

2167
01:36:31,850 --> 01:36:29,219
and uh in fact you know we all know

2168
01:36:34,310 --> 01:36:31,860
about Axelrod and his family's

2169
01:36:37,189 --> 01:36:34,320
experiences with the bipedal wolf it was

2170
01:36:38,870 --> 01:36:37,199
written about in um The Skin Walkers of

2171
01:36:41,270 --> 01:36:38,880
the Pentagon book and that skin wants to

2172
01:36:43,910 --> 01:36:41,280
the Pentagon book which was

2173
01:36:46,129 --> 01:36:43,920
um actually approved by the defense

2174
01:36:48,729 --> 01:36:46,139
intelligence agency as being

2175
01:36:52,010 --> 01:36:48,739
unclassified is just full of experiences

2176
01:36:54,410 --> 01:36:52,020
in there including orbs of all colors

2177
01:36:56,689 --> 01:36:54,420
orange and blue and apparently bluers is

2178
01:36:59,090 --> 01:36:56,699
not a good orb to be encountering and

2179
01:37:02,510 --> 01:36:59,100
also that had uh

2180
01:37:04,250 --> 01:37:02,520
encounters with triangles and so right

2181
01:37:07,430 --> 01:37:04,260
there I mean

2182
01:37:10,550 --> 01:37:07,440
if that's in playing Black and White

2183
01:37:13,430 --> 01:37:10,560
that a book written by A dia officer was

2184
01:37:14,450 --> 01:37:13,440
about experiences related to Skinwalker

2185
01:37:16,910 --> 01:37:14,460
Ranch

2186
01:37:18,950 --> 01:37:16,920
so leave it at that thank you thank you

2187
01:37:21,229 --> 01:37:18,960
that's great to hear John I'm glad that

2188
01:37:23,629 --> 01:37:21,239
some of my fears are laid there and that

2189
01:37:25,430 --> 01:37:23,639
the fact that there is a SharePoint up

2190
01:37:27,229 --> 01:37:25,440
on a secret Network that they can share

2191
01:37:30,709 --> 01:37:27,239
their experiences that is brilliant

2192
01:37:34,910 --> 01:37:30,719
that's a huge step and um uh we do have

2193
01:37:38,689 --> 01:37:34,920
two Bigfoot experiences here uh Julian I

2194
01:37:40,610 --> 01:37:38,699
I believe Linda also has has had one and

2195
01:37:42,010 --> 01:37:40,620
there's a lot of orbs from people that

2196
01:37:44,330 --> 01:37:42,020
have I've heard a number of people

2197
01:37:47,330 --> 01:37:44,340
dozens of people out in the woods that

2198
01:37:50,030 --> 01:37:47,340
have experienced orbs uh when they're

2199
01:37:52,790 --> 01:37:50,040
out there uh camping out for bigfoot so

2200
01:37:54,470 --> 01:37:52,800
I'm not sure the connection but Anjali

2201
01:37:57,350 --> 01:37:54,480
please would you take that that that

2202
01:37:59,870 --> 01:37:57,360
question Deb's question about the IC

2203
01:38:04,310 --> 01:37:59,880
community and experiencers

2204
01:38:09,890 --> 01:38:05,629
I

2205
01:38:13,250 --> 01:38:09,900
broken record with this

2206
01:38:16,490 --> 01:38:13,260
but I think it's it's highly important

2207
01:38:18,410 --> 01:38:16,500
that as soon as possible that the IC

2208
01:38:22,129 --> 01:38:18,420
Community

2209
01:38:24,050 --> 01:38:22,139
um stands up a division that is devoted

2210
01:38:27,110 --> 01:38:24,060
to

2211
01:38:30,050 --> 01:38:27,120
um understanding the types of contact

2212
01:38:31,610 --> 01:38:30,060
that are occurring with individuals what

2213
01:38:34,850 --> 01:38:31,620
those beings are saying and we need to

2214
01:38:36,129 --> 01:38:34,860
be looking for patterns we need to be

2215
01:38:41,090 --> 01:38:36,139
um

2216
01:38:45,169 --> 01:38:41,100
uh we need to be assessing intentions

2217
01:38:46,510 --> 01:38:45,179
um and you know try to to predict what

2218
01:38:50,570 --> 01:38:46,520
they're going to be doing in the future

2219
01:38:52,970 --> 01:38:50,580
everything that the IC Community is

2220
01:38:58,250 --> 01:38:52,980
supposed to do we need to do we need to

2221
01:39:00,910 --> 01:38:58,260
do that with respect to these these

2222
01:39:03,850 --> 01:39:00,920
other life forms that are interacting

2223
01:39:07,669 --> 01:39:03,860
with human beings

2224
01:39:12,770 --> 01:39:07,679
very heavily in the IC community and so

2225
01:39:14,689 --> 01:39:12,780
for for me as as a a former member

2226
01:39:16,729 --> 01:39:14,699
um although it never really feels like

2227
01:39:19,610 --> 01:39:16,739
your your former you know I mean it's

2228
01:39:22,550 --> 01:39:19,620
kind of like just a lifelong way of

2229
01:39:23,410 --> 01:39:22,560
understanding and viewing the world and

2230
01:39:27,530 --> 01:39:23,420
um

2231
01:39:29,410 --> 01:39:27,540
there we have we have too many

2232
01:39:32,450 --> 01:39:29,420
experiencers

2233
01:39:36,890 --> 01:39:32,460
in the IC community

2234
01:39:38,750 --> 01:39:36,900
for it not to be significant and

2235
01:39:43,790 --> 01:39:38,760
purposeful

2236
01:39:46,129 --> 01:39:43,800
and if we aren't trying to answer the

2237
01:39:52,129 --> 01:39:46,139
question of what that purpose is

2238
01:39:53,750 --> 01:39:52,139
then then we cannot for a moment be be

2239
01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:53,760
claiming

2240
01:39:58,189 --> 01:39:55,920
um that we are practicing good Homeland

2241
01:40:01,490 --> 01:39:58,199
Security okay

2242
01:40:02,450 --> 01:40:01,500
um so just to bring it down to the basic

2243
01:40:04,550 --> 01:40:02,460
level

2244
01:40:06,290 --> 01:40:04,560
um the IC has a job to do and they

2245
01:40:08,270 --> 01:40:06,300
haven't done it and it's not their fault

2246
01:40:11,450 --> 01:40:08,280
they haven't been given the permission

2247
01:40:16,250 --> 01:40:11,460
the resources the funding

2248
01:40:18,110 --> 01:40:16,260
um and the the uh the Personnel the

2249
01:40:21,189 --> 01:40:18,120
actual Personnel

2250
01:40:24,830 --> 01:40:21,199
um and and I see I see a way

2251
01:40:27,830 --> 01:40:24,840
to to rectify that and um and I see a

2252
01:40:31,610 --> 01:40:27,840
path forward for for analyzing

2253
01:40:33,890 --> 01:40:31,620
um what what is happening

2254
01:40:36,790 --> 01:40:33,900
um and I think we can get we can get

2255
01:40:39,649 --> 01:40:36,800
pretty close but we can't do it without

2256
01:40:43,370 --> 01:40:39,659
experiencers period

2257
01:40:47,770 --> 01:40:43,380
if we don't interview experiences in

2258
01:40:50,390 --> 01:40:47,780
depth and start taking that information

2259
01:40:53,450 --> 01:40:50,400
like it is in treating it like it is

2260
01:40:56,149 --> 01:40:53,460
human intelligence that we are failing

2261
01:40:58,669 --> 01:40:56,159
We are failing We are failing

2262
01:41:01,070 --> 01:40:58,679
that's all I got to say yeah I don't

2263
01:41:03,410 --> 01:41:01,080
think I can add much to what John and

2264
01:41:06,350 --> 01:41:03,420
Anjali said other than maybe to point

2265
01:41:08,990 --> 01:41:06,360
out that there is at least it's

2266
01:41:11,450 --> 01:41:09,000
reportedly there are agencies that went

2267
01:41:13,010 --> 01:41:11,460
and interacted with Chris Bledsoe and

2268
01:41:15,590 --> 01:41:13,020
I'd like to believe that that

2269
01:41:17,750 --> 01:41:15,600
information that they gathered on

2270
01:41:21,050 --> 01:41:17,760
multiple interactions with him probably

2271
01:41:24,350 --> 01:41:21,060
didn't just get put into a mason jar but

2272
01:41:27,050 --> 01:41:24,360
that there is probably somewhere in the

2273
01:41:28,850 --> 01:41:27,060
dod somebody studying him and I don't

2274
01:41:34,010 --> 01:41:28,860
know that he's the only one

2275
01:41:35,990 --> 01:41:34,020
so I I suspect that there may be again I

2276
01:41:38,149 --> 01:41:36,000
don't know more than what what John and

2277
01:41:40,070 --> 01:41:38,159
Anjali know but I suspect that there may

2278
01:41:42,350 --> 01:41:40,080
be an office somewhere that is taking in

2279
01:41:44,629 --> 01:41:42,360
that data from sources that they deem

2280
01:41:46,970 --> 01:41:44,639
credible and I think we all know at this

2281
01:41:50,810 --> 01:41:46,980
panel here that there are many more

2282
01:41:52,550 --> 01:41:50,820
credible experiences Beyond them

2283
01:41:56,450 --> 01:41:52,560
um I'm going to throw my topic out there

2284
01:41:58,129 --> 01:41:56,460
because we have about 11 minutes left

2285
01:42:01,370 --> 01:41:58,139
um and see what you guys think of that

2286
01:42:03,470 --> 01:42:01,380
one and we'll take it to Nathan uh first

2287
01:42:06,290 --> 01:42:03,480
and then go around the table and as you

2288
01:42:09,050 --> 01:42:06,300
guys can see Hera the Black Panther has

2289
01:42:11,750 --> 01:42:09,060
decided to make an appearance hello Hera

2290
01:42:14,149 --> 01:42:11,760
and um there we go now she's probably

2291
01:42:17,090 --> 01:42:14,159
gonna dig her claws into my back all

2292
01:42:19,010 --> 01:42:17,100
right Hera let me see let's bring up my

2293
01:42:20,450 --> 01:42:19,020
notepad here

2294
01:42:21,770 --> 01:42:20,460
um okay

2295
01:42:25,129 --> 01:42:21,780
so

2296
01:42:26,510 --> 01:42:25,139
um this uh this question I guess this

2297
01:42:28,370 --> 01:42:26,520
question actually was for John and

2298
01:42:31,010 --> 01:42:28,380
Anjali but I I'm just going to take it

2299
01:42:34,790 --> 01:42:31,020
around the table to everybody

2300
01:42:36,350 --> 01:42:34,800
and do you think that uh a group of the

2301
01:42:39,830 --> 01:42:36,360
phenomenon

2302
01:42:42,109 --> 01:42:39,840
uh that that comes into play let's say

2303
01:42:44,390 --> 01:42:42,119
that is 2027.

2304
01:42:46,370 --> 01:42:44,400
do you think they will accept um

2305
01:42:50,990 --> 01:42:46,380
exercise a certain amount of control

2306
01:42:53,330 --> 01:42:51,000
over Humanity thereby removing agency

2307
01:42:55,129 --> 01:42:53,340
from Humanity

2308
01:42:58,550 --> 01:42:55,139
what do you think Nathan do you think

2309
01:43:01,070 --> 01:42:58,560
that there is a group or groups that

2310
01:43:05,450 --> 01:43:01,080
will decide to exercise some control

2311
01:43:09,229 --> 01:43:05,460
over us as humans and remove some of our

2312
01:43:10,910 --> 01:43:09,239
agency maybe all what's your thought

2313
01:43:12,590 --> 01:43:10,920
yeah it's an interesting question I

2314
01:43:15,109 --> 01:43:12,600
think this sort of gets to me at least

2315
01:43:17,270 --> 01:43:15,119
to the um the way in which our

2316
01:43:18,890 --> 01:43:17,280
understanding of of reality is actually

2317
01:43:20,810 --> 01:43:18,900
kind of busted and broken I don't know

2318
01:43:23,270 --> 01:43:20,820
that they even think like that I don't

2319
01:43:26,209 --> 01:43:23,280
know that it really I don't either yeah

2320
01:43:28,790 --> 01:43:26,219
so I I I and I'm sure Anjali and John

2321
01:43:32,149 --> 01:43:28,800
have more to say on this but I I think

2322
01:43:36,709 --> 01:43:34,790
to to many of us it might look like that

2323
01:43:38,510 --> 01:43:36,719
like I could see why we might have that

2324
01:43:40,609 --> 01:43:38,520
impression or as we speculate about it

2325
01:43:42,830 --> 01:43:40,619
that's something we would speculate that

2326
01:43:44,750 --> 01:43:42,840
would happen that's a very in a way kind

2327
01:43:46,910 --> 01:43:44,760
of almost an Antiquated you know

2328
01:43:49,790 --> 01:43:46,920
anthropomorphic way of looking at this

2329
01:43:52,010 --> 01:43:49,800
sort of you know relationship but uh

2330
01:43:54,229 --> 01:43:52,020
based on what many have said not just

2331
01:43:56,570 --> 01:43:54,239
those here tonight the the kind of

2332
01:44:00,109 --> 01:43:56,580
contact the kind of communication the

2333
01:44:02,270 --> 01:44:00,119
kind of relationship is so radically

2334
01:44:03,770 --> 01:44:02,280
different than what we are accustomed to

2335
01:44:06,590 --> 01:44:03,780
and in the world that we have

2336
01:44:08,930 --> 01:44:06,600
constructed around ourselves that you

2337
01:44:10,910 --> 01:44:08,940
know in a way it uh it's like a it's a

2338
01:44:13,010 --> 01:44:10,920
it's the definition of a paradigm shift

2339
01:44:15,109 --> 01:44:13,020
right it's literally like breaking all

2340
01:44:18,050 --> 01:44:15,119
of the things that we thought we

2341
01:44:19,669 --> 01:44:18,060
understood and reframing that

2342
01:44:21,590 --> 01:44:19,679
um and I think along those lines just

2343
01:44:23,689 --> 01:44:21,600
the last thing that I'll say related to

2344
01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:23,699
the earlier conversation is that I you

2345
01:44:28,729 --> 01:44:25,920
know I hope what Anjali said Is is true

2346
01:44:31,129 --> 01:44:28,739
because it at some level I believe we

2347
01:44:32,090 --> 01:44:31,139
all intuitively understand that that

2348
01:44:38,330 --> 01:44:32,100
that

2349
01:44:40,669 --> 01:44:38,340
there's something broken about it and I

2350
01:44:43,250 --> 01:44:40,679
think we know this at a very fundamental

2351
01:44:45,649 --> 01:44:43,260
level and we will in a way kind of like

2352
01:44:47,689 --> 01:44:45,659
welcome this revelatory moment because

2353
01:44:49,310 --> 01:44:47,699
it's like the reanimation of the human

2354
01:44:51,950 --> 01:44:49,320
Spirit

2355
01:44:55,310 --> 01:44:51,960
um waking us from a slumber

2356
01:44:56,870 --> 01:44:55,320
interesting interesting uh uh you know

2357
01:44:59,209 --> 01:44:56,880
depending upon what their vision is and

2358
01:45:02,570 --> 01:44:59,219
how it comports with what your vision

2359
01:45:04,790 --> 01:45:02,580
might be you know I mean that's open

2360
01:45:07,070 --> 01:45:04,800
interpretation Deb do you think that uh

2361
01:45:08,750 --> 01:45:07,080
do you think the phenomenal exercise a

2362
01:45:12,590 --> 01:45:08,760
certain amount of control it might be

2363
01:45:14,990 --> 01:45:12,600
positive uh or and remove agency or not

2364
01:45:19,010 --> 01:45:15,000
well I'll be honest

2365
01:45:21,709 --> 01:45:19,020
um I sometimes have to pause and think

2366
01:45:25,129 --> 01:45:21,719
about what we've seen previously in

2367
01:45:28,310 --> 01:45:25,139
terms of behavior and we have seen some

2368
01:45:31,790 --> 01:45:28,320
use of humans as basically tools to an

2369
01:45:34,129 --> 01:45:31,800
end and um I remember Dave Scott talking

2370
01:45:36,950 --> 01:45:34,139
about

2371
01:45:39,770 --> 01:45:36,960
um the flying of a UFO and there was an

2372
01:45:41,990 --> 01:45:39,780
entity flying a UFO that no longer had a

2373
01:45:44,570 --> 01:45:42,000
body but the Consciousness was still

2374
01:45:46,790 --> 01:45:44,580
being used to fly the UFO and the one

2375
01:45:50,750 --> 01:45:46,800
thing that freaked me out out of this

2376
01:45:53,270 --> 01:45:50,760
whole topic was the idea of being used

2377
01:45:56,570 --> 01:45:53,280
to fly a UFO

2378
01:45:58,810 --> 01:45:56,580
um and basically as a tool or a battery

2379
01:46:02,990 --> 01:45:58,820
and other people have talked about that

2380
01:46:04,669 --> 01:46:03,000
so that is a concern that I have that

2381
01:46:07,129 --> 01:46:04,679
they may not think about it the way that

2382
01:46:08,689 --> 01:46:07,139
we do they might just think well of

2383
01:46:11,870 --> 01:46:08,699
course you'd be willing and wanting to

2384
01:46:13,910 --> 01:46:11,880
do this right be a battery for us right

2385
01:46:16,070 --> 01:46:13,920
so

2386
01:46:18,470 --> 01:46:16,080
you know I can't say because we I don't

2387
01:46:20,270 --> 01:46:18,480
have that conversation with you know a

2388
01:46:22,189 --> 01:46:20,280
non-human intelligence we don't that's

2389
01:46:24,770 --> 01:46:22,199
not a discussion that I've had you know

2390
01:46:26,689 --> 01:46:24,780
but um that is a concern that that's

2391
01:46:29,689 --> 01:46:26,699
just because like Nathan said they don't

2392
01:46:32,570 --> 01:46:29,699
think like we do it may look like we've

2393
01:46:35,450 --> 01:46:32,580
lost agency in that sense

2394
01:46:40,430 --> 01:46:35,460
interesting great way to put it let's go

2395
01:46:43,870 --> 01:46:43,010
well that just tripped me out

2396
01:46:46,090 --> 01:46:43,880
um

2397
01:46:48,890 --> 01:46:46,100
but but

2398
01:46:52,129 --> 01:46:48,900
maybe it's not just being a battery

2399
01:46:54,950 --> 01:46:52,139
maybe it's an extension of Life maybe

2400
01:46:58,550 --> 01:46:54,960
you are being installed in that craft to

2401
01:47:00,350 --> 01:46:58,560
live another existence you know they may

2402
01:47:02,390 --> 01:47:00,360
not think like we do but maybe we aren't

2403
01:47:05,750 --> 01:47:02,400
thinking like them either and therefore

2404
01:47:07,669 --> 01:47:05,760
we're wrong in that you know I I don't

2405
01:47:09,290 --> 01:47:07,679
know I don't think until we experience

2406
01:47:10,970 --> 01:47:09,300
something like that can we actually

2407
01:47:14,570 --> 01:47:10,980
judge it

2408
01:47:19,310 --> 01:47:14,580
but that's that's just me I try to see

2409
01:47:23,750 --> 01:47:22,010
yeah think about something the way that

2410
01:47:25,629 --> 01:47:23,760
a non-human intelligent you can only

2411
01:47:28,250 --> 01:47:25,639
think as a human it's your limitation

2412
01:47:30,830 --> 01:47:28,260
they may not be yeah Think Like Us

2413
01:47:32,750 --> 01:47:30,840
unless they've just you know have

2414
01:47:34,490 --> 01:47:32,760
understand so much about us that they've

2415
01:47:38,030 --> 01:47:34,500
learned to be able to think like us

2416
01:47:40,490 --> 01:47:38,040
perhaps and maybe maybe after you you

2417
01:47:42,649 --> 01:47:40,500
are a craft for a while and you're

2418
01:47:44,030 --> 01:47:42,659
flying around seeing the universe you go

2419
01:47:47,030 --> 01:47:44,040
on to be something else because I

2420
01:47:48,830 --> 01:47:47,040
believe we're Eternal you know and maybe

2421
01:47:51,229 --> 01:47:48,840
you're just going to go on to something

2422
01:47:54,530 --> 01:47:51,239
else after that I don't know if it's

2423
01:47:57,109 --> 01:47:54,540
actually like being punished or or used

2424
01:47:59,570 --> 01:47:57,119
or whatever it just may be

2425
01:48:01,129 --> 01:47:59,580
a different existence

2426
01:48:03,709 --> 01:48:01,139
so

2427
01:48:07,310 --> 01:48:03,719
but but that that that is kind of trippy

2428
01:48:09,169 --> 01:48:07,320
and I can see how it might scare people

2429
01:48:11,390 --> 01:48:09,179
I mean what Deb described was basically

2430
01:48:13,070 --> 01:48:11,400
the Headless Horseman right they chopped

2431
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:13,080
that Hessian Soldier they chopped that

2432
01:48:19,129 --> 01:48:14,650
up he's still able to operate

2433
01:48:22,430 --> 01:48:19,139
[Laughter]

2434
01:48:24,290 --> 01:48:22,440
the crap Linda my friend uh what do you

2435
01:48:28,370 --> 01:48:24,300
think's gonna happen my friend uh are

2436
01:48:31,790 --> 01:48:28,380
they going to uh maybe uh exercise some

2437
01:48:33,590 --> 01:48:31,800
control over our Destiny or we'll take

2438
01:48:35,330 --> 01:48:33,600
some of our agency or not what's your

2439
01:48:37,250 --> 01:48:35,340
thoughts you've communicated with a

2440
01:48:39,470 --> 01:48:37,260
number of these intelligences

2441
01:48:40,910 --> 01:48:39,480
I made it just won over and over I don't

2442
01:48:45,890 --> 01:48:40,920
know

2443
01:48:47,930 --> 01:48:45,900
I think if they take agency over

2444
01:48:56,209 --> 01:48:51,709
keeping us safe from nuclear keeping us

2445
01:48:59,750 --> 01:48:56,219
safe from Putin keeping us safe from

2446
01:49:03,649 --> 01:48:59,760
um various factors that can

2447
01:49:04,570 --> 01:49:03,659
be good for us that's great

2448
01:49:09,470 --> 01:49:04,580
um

2449
01:49:12,850 --> 01:49:09,480
we cannot suppose to understand any

2450
01:49:16,729 --> 01:49:12,860
Grand Design or no Grand Design

2451
01:49:20,510 --> 01:49:16,739
and multiple

2452
01:49:24,470 --> 01:49:20,520
types of these okay so I think they've

2453
01:49:29,030 --> 01:49:24,480
been exercising an amount of agency from

2454
01:49:32,510 --> 01:49:29,040
the very beginning on our planet with us

2455
01:49:35,030 --> 01:49:32,520
not being aware of it so I think they're

2456
01:49:40,490 --> 01:49:38,510
do what they plan to do

2457
01:49:43,310 --> 01:49:40,500
so it'll be relatively transparent

2458
01:49:45,530 --> 01:49:43,320
because at this point no no I'm I'm

2459
01:49:47,689 --> 01:49:45,540
saying that because obviously you know

2460
01:49:50,270 --> 01:49:47,699
they shut down you know uh Robert

2461
01:49:52,609 --> 01:49:50,280
solace's nukes and whereas they turned

2462
01:49:54,890 --> 01:49:52,619
on you know Soviet nukes at that point

2463
01:49:58,010 --> 01:49:54,900
and start made it uh initiated a start

2464
01:50:01,310 --> 01:49:58,020
sequence that they then interrupted so

2465
01:50:03,410 --> 01:50:01,320
but to the largest swath of of the

2466
01:50:05,689 --> 01:50:03,420
population of the world it's it's

2467
01:50:10,129 --> 01:50:05,699
largely transparent or they don't know

2468
01:50:18,109 --> 01:50:15,050
I think we're gonna have more

2469
01:50:19,609 --> 01:50:18,119
more con conscious we're going to be all

2470
01:50:21,169 --> 01:50:19,619
Consciousness

2471
01:50:24,530 --> 01:50:21,179
um I think it's going to be more

2472
01:50:25,189 --> 01:50:24,540
consciously aware

2473
01:50:29,390 --> 01:50:25,199
um

2474
01:50:31,550 --> 01:50:29,400
so I don't know it's up to them

2475
01:50:35,510 --> 01:50:31,560
um we're getting to that point where we

2476
01:50:37,129 --> 01:50:35,520
need more help quick yeah

2477
01:50:39,830 --> 01:50:37,139
I mean yeah we I think you and Nathan

2478
01:50:42,470 --> 01:50:39,840
both are on that same that same line and

2479
01:50:44,510 --> 01:50:42,480
I agree with you John yes sir and then

2480
01:50:46,790 --> 01:50:44,520
Anjali okay here's the thought it's

2481
01:50:50,090 --> 01:50:46,800
already happened uh that agency was

2482
01:50:52,490 --> 01:50:50,100
imposed upon the planet long time ago uh

2483
01:50:55,790 --> 01:50:52,500
when they uh established kingship and

2484
01:50:58,030 --> 01:50:55,800
priesthood based on a patriarchal model

2485
01:51:01,310 --> 01:50:58,040
and we've been living with it ever since

2486
01:51:04,209 --> 01:51:01,320
and so I would say that it's not them

2487
01:51:07,910 --> 01:51:04,219
that did it it's us did it to ourselves

2488
01:51:09,770 --> 01:51:07,920
by elevating them to a Divinity that

2489
01:51:10,970 --> 01:51:09,780
they themselves would admit they don't

2490
01:51:13,669 --> 01:51:10,980
deserve

2491
01:51:17,390 --> 01:51:13,679
but we elevated them to a Divinity a a

2492
01:51:21,169 --> 01:51:17,400
male based hierarchy uh of their divine

2493
01:51:24,350 --> 01:51:21,179
presence and uh we establish you know

2494
01:51:25,870 --> 01:51:24,360
nation states based on kingship

2495
01:51:28,790 --> 01:51:25,880
um and a male

2496
01:51:31,129 --> 01:51:28,800
aristocratic line establishing kingship

2497
01:51:33,770 --> 01:51:31,139
and land ownership and a priesthood of

2498
01:51:36,649 --> 01:51:33,780
us worshiping them through a male

2499
01:51:39,050 --> 01:51:36,659
type of lineage whereas the natural

2500
01:51:42,109 --> 01:51:39,060
order of things was to have a

2501
01:51:43,850 --> 01:51:42,119
matriarchal society and so I think

2502
01:51:46,490 --> 01:51:43,860
they're here to undo what we did to

2503
01:51:48,590 --> 01:51:46,500
ourselves so I don't buy that they're

2504
01:51:50,330 --> 01:51:48,600
going to come here and and and take away

2505
01:51:53,689 --> 01:51:50,340
our agency they're trying to give us

2506
01:51:55,910 --> 01:51:53,699
back what we once had and that's what I

2507
01:51:59,390 --> 01:51:55,920
think is going to be a shift in our

2508
01:52:00,169 --> 01:51:59,400
Consciousness is to actually know who we

2509
01:52:02,689 --> 01:52:00,179
were

2510
01:52:05,149 --> 01:52:02,699
who we are and what we can become

2511
01:52:08,510 --> 01:52:05,159
Because unless we know that we cannot

2512
01:52:10,669 --> 01:52:08,520
join them as a space-faring planet to

2513
01:52:13,370 --> 01:52:10,679
explore the rest of the universe with

2514
01:52:15,770 --> 01:52:13,380
them that's right and I just want to say

2515
01:52:17,750 --> 01:52:15,780
I wasn't suggesting that they were going

2516
01:52:19,490 --> 01:52:17,760
to do that I was just asking do you

2517
01:52:21,830 --> 01:52:19,500
think they'll do that and so I'm just

2518
01:52:23,510 --> 01:52:21,840
it's a question now it's not a

2519
01:52:26,450 --> 01:52:23,520
declarative statement so just to make

2520
01:52:27,950 --> 01:52:26,460
sure you're uh that that nobody thinks

2521
01:52:30,709 --> 01:52:27,960
that I was suggesting that's what would

2522
01:52:32,390 --> 01:52:30,719
happen I don't know but that's why you

2523
01:52:33,830 --> 01:52:32,400
have on smart people like you guys so we

2524
01:52:37,970 --> 01:52:33,840
can ask

2525
01:52:43,609 --> 01:52:41,030
um okay so

2526
01:52:46,910 --> 01:52:43,619
um I'm going to go back again and kind

2527
01:52:49,550 --> 01:52:46,920
of tease the IC a little bit again

2528
01:52:50,750 --> 01:52:49,560
um and I guess roast them a little

2529
01:52:52,729 --> 01:52:50,760
um

2530
01:52:54,109 --> 01:52:52,739
I guess I'm doing more boasting than I'm

2531
01:52:55,030 --> 01:52:54,119
doing anything

2532
01:52:59,030 --> 01:52:55,040
um

2533
01:53:00,770 --> 01:52:59,040
again I'm going to say that we need to

2534
01:53:03,950 --> 01:53:00,780
stand up a division

2535
01:53:06,729 --> 01:53:03,960
that is dedicated to Discerning the

2536
01:53:09,649 --> 01:53:06,739
difference between the non-human

2537
01:53:14,990 --> 01:53:09,659
stakeholders that we have

2538
01:53:17,209 --> 01:53:15,000
um we we don't just have one group of of

2539
01:53:20,870 --> 01:53:17,219
beings that are

2540
01:53:21,729 --> 01:53:20,880
are present here on Earth and we need to

2541
01:53:24,169 --> 01:53:21,739
understand

2542
01:53:26,270 --> 01:53:24,179
not only where we come from but where

2543
01:53:29,209 --> 01:53:26,280
they come from how long they've been

2544
01:53:30,290 --> 01:53:29,219
here what their intentions are

2545
01:53:35,169 --> 01:53:30,300
um

2546
01:53:38,570 --> 01:53:35,179
we know that from a lot of experiencers

2547
01:53:41,750 --> 01:53:38,580
that uh We've we've heard

2548
01:53:44,510 --> 01:53:41,760
about the positive side of the I'll call

2549
01:53:47,330 --> 01:53:44,520
it the Consciousness effect right

2550
01:53:50,330 --> 01:53:47,340
um where we have we begin having

2551
01:53:53,149 --> 01:53:50,340
conscious communication with them and uh

2552
01:53:56,450 --> 01:53:53,159
it really it transforms our lives and

2553
01:53:58,490 --> 01:53:56,460
we've had you know some some type of

2554
01:54:00,290 --> 01:53:58,500
experience that we can probably anchor

2555
01:54:02,689 --> 01:54:00,300
at different points throughout our lives

2556
01:54:04,129 --> 01:54:02,699
that that connect that feeling for us

2557
01:54:08,450 --> 01:54:04,139
right so

2558
01:54:10,910 --> 01:54:08,460
um we uh gosh I can't remember where

2559
01:54:13,850 --> 01:54:10,920
exactly where I was going with that

2560
01:54:15,350 --> 01:54:13,860
um well basically the question is uh the

2561
01:54:17,810 --> 01:54:15,360
question was do you think that they're

2562
01:54:19,850 --> 01:54:17,820
going to exercise some sort of control

2563
01:54:21,350 --> 01:54:19,860
over Humanity that any of the

2564
01:54:23,870 --> 01:54:21,360
intelligences that you've either

2565
01:54:25,430 --> 01:54:23,880
interacted with or heard about through

2566
01:54:29,689 --> 01:54:25,440
the ones that you're reacting with okay

2567
01:54:31,550 --> 01:54:29,699
yeah thank you yes so so again we're

2568
01:54:37,010 --> 01:54:31,560
dealing with what more than one thing

2569
01:54:41,209 --> 01:54:37,020
here and I I cannot stress that enough

2570
01:54:45,169 --> 01:54:41,219
um there there are

2571
01:54:46,850 --> 01:54:45,179
um there are intricacies to this that we

2572
01:54:51,050 --> 01:54:46,860
need to take

2573
01:54:53,090 --> 01:54:51,060
great care in examining and attempting

2574
01:54:53,750 --> 01:54:53,100
to understand

2575
01:54:55,250 --> 01:54:53,760
um

2576
01:55:02,090 --> 01:54:55,260
I

2577
01:55:06,729 --> 01:55:02,100
um the idea of agency removed has was

2578
01:55:08,990 --> 01:55:06,739
very perfectly addressed by Mr Ramirez

2579
01:55:12,050 --> 01:55:09,000
that was going to be one of the first

2580
01:55:15,350 --> 01:55:12,060
things that I offered up is that our

2581
01:55:16,729 --> 01:55:15,360
agency was restricted a very long time

2582
01:55:20,350 --> 01:55:16,739
ago

2583
01:55:21,950 --> 01:55:20,360
um and we need to understand why

2584
01:55:25,669 --> 01:55:21,960
and

2585
01:55:29,209 --> 01:55:25,679
framework

2586
01:55:32,390 --> 01:55:29,219
with the other groups and beings who are

2587
01:55:34,250 --> 01:55:32,400
here to better understand so

2588
01:55:37,669 --> 01:55:34,260
um

2589
01:55:40,250 --> 01:55:37,679
so will they come in and remove

2590
01:55:43,189 --> 01:55:40,260
additional agency

2591
01:55:47,030 --> 01:55:43,199
um I I have no idea

2592
01:55:48,350 --> 01:55:47,040
um the there are uh there are concerns

2593
01:55:59,149 --> 01:55:48,360
that

2594
01:56:01,250 --> 01:55:59,159
having some kind of psychotic break

2595
01:56:03,229 --> 01:56:01,260
where we decide we're going to you know

2596
01:56:04,790 --> 01:56:03,239
nuke the entire planet because you know

2597
01:56:07,010 --> 01:56:04,800
we have some something that we don't

2598
01:56:08,990 --> 01:56:07,020
understand in the atmosphere or you know

2599
01:56:10,729 --> 01:56:09,000
on our Lawns or whatever

2600
01:56:12,530 --> 01:56:10,739
um so you know we're we're going to have

2601
01:56:17,149 --> 01:56:12,540
to definitely

2602
01:56:23,510 --> 01:56:17,159
um as as a species

2603
01:56:26,750 --> 01:56:23,520
and as a I hope at some point as a

2604
01:56:29,750 --> 01:56:26,760
um a global family

2605
01:56:32,870 --> 01:56:29,760
we have to begin to approach this

2606
01:56:35,090 --> 01:56:32,880
uh we have we are about to discover

2607
01:56:37,430 --> 01:56:35,100
that all of the differences that we have

2608
01:56:40,970 --> 01:56:37,440
on this planet are minutia they're

2609
01:56:44,030 --> 01:56:40,980
nothing they are they're illusory they

2610
01:56:46,550 --> 01:56:44,040
they keep us divided they keep us from

2611
01:56:47,810 --> 01:56:46,560
hampering our progress they keep us from

2612
01:56:53,930 --> 01:56:47,820
from

2613
01:56:56,390 --> 01:56:53,940
into the beings that we are capable of

2614
01:56:59,209 --> 01:56:56,400
of becoming and of and who we already

2615
01:57:01,790 --> 01:56:59,219
are all of these things need to be

2616
01:57:04,490 --> 01:57:01,800
addressed and we haven't even started

2617
01:57:06,590 --> 01:57:04,500
the conversation yet honestly

2618
01:57:08,810 --> 01:57:06,600
um there might be a few back rooms

2619
01:57:11,390 --> 01:57:08,820
somewhere where there are a group of

2620
01:57:13,430 --> 01:57:11,400
powerful men pardon me

2621
01:57:15,109 --> 01:57:13,440
um who are having those private

2622
01:57:16,609 --> 01:57:15,119
conversations and making those decisions

2623
01:57:17,930 --> 01:57:16,619
for all of us

2624
01:57:21,709 --> 01:57:17,940
but

2625
01:57:24,709 --> 01:57:21,719
um the IC and the nation

2626
01:57:27,410 --> 01:57:24,719
are ill-prepared and

2627
01:57:29,750 --> 01:57:27,420
um it's time to get to work

2628
01:57:34,550 --> 01:57:29,760
can I get an amen for my home girl

2629
01:57:39,709 --> 01:57:37,609
I'm sorry that that is uh about all the

2630
01:57:44,570 --> 01:57:39,719
time we have what I want to do throw out

2631
01:57:46,070 --> 01:57:44,580
there is uh John or or Linda or Andre

2632
01:57:47,390 --> 01:57:46,080
would you like to promote Anjali you

2633
01:57:49,490 --> 01:57:47,400
mentioned we start with you you

2634
01:57:50,930 --> 01:57:49,500
mentioned that you have a podcast coming

2635
01:57:52,550 --> 01:57:50,940
up that you're going to be involved with

2636
01:57:55,870 --> 01:57:52,560
they're starting can you do would you

2637
01:58:00,350 --> 01:57:58,370
just very quickly because I you know

2638
01:58:02,689 --> 01:58:00,360
it's it's not why I'm here and I don't I

2639
01:58:06,229 --> 01:58:02,699
don't want you to messenger seat

2640
01:58:09,169 --> 01:58:06,239
um I uh yes I the decision to have a

2641
01:58:12,109 --> 01:58:09,179
podcast is is just based on my need to

2642
01:58:13,850 --> 01:58:12,119
be able to accurately communicate

2643
01:58:16,490 --> 01:58:13,860
um in

2644
01:58:18,830 --> 01:58:16,500
um and present the information in a way

2645
01:58:22,430 --> 01:58:18,840
that I think will be

2646
01:58:25,490 --> 01:58:22,440
um that will be best reflective of what

2647
01:58:26,810 --> 01:58:25,500
I have learned even over the last two

2648
01:58:29,270 --> 01:58:26,820
years

2649
01:58:32,810 --> 01:58:29,280
um and I'm not I'm not even the same

2650
01:58:35,689 --> 01:58:32,820
woman who who came out you know in in

2651
01:58:37,550 --> 01:58:35,699
March of 2021 and and came forward and

2652
01:58:39,950 --> 01:58:37,560
said hey guys this is what I experienced

2653
01:58:42,530 --> 01:58:39,960
and I'm this changed woman well I feel

2654
01:58:45,189 --> 01:58:42,540
like you know I can barely relate to her

2655
01:58:48,290 --> 01:58:45,199
you know I mean it's just like my my

2656
01:58:51,470 --> 01:58:48,300
constant movement and growth is just I'm

2657
01:58:53,510 --> 01:58:51,480
really enjoying it and um and I think

2658
01:58:56,030 --> 01:58:53,520
that that uh

2659
01:58:57,589 --> 01:58:56,040
that I want to share that I want to

2660
01:59:01,250 --> 01:58:57,599
share that with everyone

2661
01:59:03,770 --> 01:59:01,260
um I want them to uh

2662
01:59:07,550 --> 01:59:03,780
um understand

2663
01:59:09,649 --> 01:59:07,560
my not only my experiences

2664
01:59:11,810 --> 01:59:09,659
but I want to share with them my

2665
01:59:14,270 --> 01:59:11,820
analysis of

2666
01:59:17,810 --> 01:59:14,280
of what is happening and who we may be

2667
01:59:21,830 --> 01:59:17,820
uh communicating with and

2668
01:59:24,050 --> 01:59:21,840
um the the different stakeholders and

2669
01:59:25,669 --> 01:59:24,060
um what those intentions may be

2670
01:59:27,169 --> 01:59:25,679
that doesn't mean I'm right just because

2671
01:59:28,490 --> 01:59:27,179
my because I come up with something

2672
01:59:31,189 --> 01:59:28,500
right I mean

2673
01:59:33,950 --> 01:59:31,199
um a lot of you know Intel Intelligence

2674
01:59:35,570 --> 01:59:33,960
Officers write a lot of reports and they

2675
01:59:37,250 --> 01:59:35,580
get sent right back to their desk to

2676
01:59:39,229 --> 01:59:37,260
write them again and they get sent back

2677
01:59:41,089 --> 01:59:39,239
again and they get sent back again you

2678
01:59:44,810 --> 01:59:41,099
know I mean it can happen

2679
01:59:46,250 --> 01:59:44,820
um I'm not I'm not claiming to be

2680
01:59:49,910 --> 01:59:46,260
be or end-all

2681
01:59:53,270 --> 01:59:49,920
um but I do hope to be

2682
01:59:54,470 --> 01:59:53,280
um one of the first the public voices

2683
01:59:58,070 --> 01:59:54,480
um coming from the intelligence

2684
02:00:01,370 --> 01:59:58,080
Community who tries to bring analysis

2685
02:00:02,990 --> 02:00:01,380
and understanding you know to humanity

2686
02:00:10,669 --> 02:00:03,000
of

2687
02:00:13,129 --> 02:00:10,679
our normal framework

2688
02:00:15,709 --> 02:00:13,139
so join me if that sounds interesting to

2689
02:00:16,430 --> 02:00:15,719
you and if it doesn't then um I wish you

2690
02:00:18,830 --> 02:00:16,440
well

2691
02:00:20,470 --> 02:00:18,840
I will be subscribing I'll put you that

2692
02:00:23,510 --> 02:00:20,480
way so what's the name of it going to be

2693
02:00:25,250 --> 02:00:23,520
Discerning just certain oh I like it I

2694
02:00:27,530 --> 02:00:25,260
like it John would you like to have

2695
02:00:29,750 --> 02:00:27,540
anything you'd like to promote I know

2696
02:00:31,669 --> 02:00:29,760
you're coming up with I don't remember

2697
02:00:35,089 --> 02:00:31,679
your next pod but please promote

2698
02:00:40,609 --> 02:00:37,729
I basically have two left um interview

2699
02:00:43,129 --> 02:00:40,619
with uh UAP studies podcast on Saturday

2700
02:00:46,010 --> 02:00:43,139
and they'll post the links to it and my

2701
02:00:47,770 --> 02:00:46,020
final one would be uh into the weird uh

2702
02:00:49,930 --> 02:00:47,780
weird spelled

2703
02:00:53,510 --> 02:00:49,940
w-y-r-d-e with Hollywood

2704
02:00:56,089 --> 02:00:53,520
yeah Holly and uh yeah and you had her

2705
02:00:58,910 --> 02:00:56,099
on as well yes and uh so that would be

2706
02:01:03,229 --> 02:00:58,920
my last one and uh stay tuned because uh

2707
02:01:05,510 --> 02:01:03,239
you won't see me until after disclosure

2708
02:01:08,149 --> 02:01:05,520
and then we'll have a very different

2709
02:01:10,550 --> 02:01:08,159
conversation all the conversations were

2710
02:01:13,250 --> 02:01:10,560
changed so stay tuned and thank you very

2711
02:01:16,010 --> 02:01:13,260
much for uh hosting us gracious house

2712
02:01:18,709 --> 02:01:16,020
everyone you got you got cabbie goodbyes

2713
02:01:21,290 --> 02:01:18,719
yet so just hang on so

2714
02:01:25,570 --> 02:01:21,300
um I I don't know if if Julie knows how

2715
02:01:32,149 --> 02:01:29,330
I want to say thank you so much for

2716
02:01:35,390 --> 02:01:32,159
coming and riding in the cab with us it

2717
02:01:38,209 --> 02:01:35,400
has been an enlightening show thanks to

2718
02:01:41,930 --> 02:01:38,219
my cabbie comrades because they let me

2719
02:01:44,629 --> 02:01:41,940
on the panel and out of the chat and it

2720
02:01:47,570 --> 02:01:44,639
has been grand having a reunion with my

2721
02:01:50,149 --> 02:01:47,580
sister Linda since it's been so long

2722
02:01:52,310 --> 02:01:50,159
since I've been on a show with her and I

2723
02:01:54,890 --> 02:01:52,320
just I just hope the best for both of

2724
02:01:57,470 --> 02:01:54,900
you I I can't wait until after

2725
02:02:00,410 --> 02:01:57,480
disclosure when you come back John I'm

2726
02:02:03,470 --> 02:02:00,420
ready for that conversation and I will

2727
02:02:04,490 --> 02:02:03,480
definitely be subscribing Angeline thank

2728
02:02:12,290 --> 02:02:04,500
you

2729
02:02:15,290 --> 02:02:12,300
and have a great day bye

2730
02:02:17,149 --> 02:02:15,300
I appreciate you Debs I wanted to say

2731
02:02:19,729 --> 02:02:17,159
thank you to both of you for coming and

2732
02:02:23,030 --> 02:02:19,739
speaking with us I wish more people had

2733
02:02:24,950 --> 02:02:23,040
that ability to come out and communicate

2734
02:02:26,629 --> 02:02:24,960
what they know I really appreciate that

2735
02:02:29,930 --> 02:02:26,639
you guys are brave enough to do that

2736
02:02:32,030 --> 02:02:29,940
immensely also I wanted to say a extra

2737
02:02:35,649 --> 02:02:32,040
thank you to John who has agreed to let

2738
02:02:40,669 --> 02:02:35,659
me do a recap of his previous interview

2739
02:02:43,250 --> 02:02:40,679
on the dojo for UAP Med because he was

2740
02:02:46,310 --> 02:02:43,260
talking about supporting experiencers so

2741
02:02:48,229 --> 02:02:46,320
we will be putting that out soon

2742
02:02:50,870 --> 02:02:48,239
thank you so much

2743
02:02:52,609 --> 02:02:50,880
all right devsi money

2744
02:02:55,430 --> 02:02:52,619
yeah thank you guys it's been a

2745
02:02:57,410 --> 02:02:55,440
wonderful conversation and uh

2746
02:03:00,470 --> 02:02:57,420
you know I feel personally touched by

2747
02:03:05,089 --> 02:03:00,480
what you shared and um

2748
02:03:08,510 --> 02:03:07,010
uh thank you money

2749
02:03:09,950 --> 02:03:08,520
um and by the way Harris here she's

2750
02:03:12,109 --> 02:03:09,960
trying to like get in the shot here

2751
02:03:14,990 --> 02:03:12,119
she's just she's ready to just claw me

2752
02:03:17,870 --> 02:03:15,000
to Pieces uh but yes uh I want to say

2753
02:03:20,390 --> 02:03:17,880
thank you to uh our guests of honor John

2754
02:03:22,310 --> 02:03:20,400
and Anjali you guys are awesome brother

2755
02:03:22,910 --> 02:03:22,320
and sister

2756
02:03:25,609 --> 02:03:22,920
um

2757
02:03:28,129 --> 02:03:25,619
and just sharing your experience and uh

2758
02:03:30,410 --> 02:03:28,139
with us and and allowing us to welcome

2759
02:03:32,810 --> 02:03:30,420
you into the cab

2760
02:03:35,270 --> 02:03:32,820
um it's it's it really was an honor to

2761
02:03:37,609 --> 02:03:35,280
have you John I'm so it it's great to be

2762
02:03:39,109 --> 02:03:37,619
able to call you and speak with you on

2763
02:03:41,030 --> 02:03:39,119
the phone about stuff when when

2764
02:03:44,209 --> 02:03:41,040
something comes up or have a question

2765
02:03:45,770 --> 02:03:44,219
and I did get to speak with uh Anjali

2766
02:03:48,290 --> 02:03:45,780
recently on the phone for the first time

2767
02:03:51,109 --> 02:03:48,300
that was pretty awesome and

2768
02:03:53,930 --> 02:03:51,119
um and thank you so much uh I realize

2769
02:03:56,149 --> 02:03:53,940
you know John you may be uh at for a

2770
02:03:57,709 --> 02:03:56,159
while after these next two and Anjali

2771
02:04:00,950 --> 02:03:57,719
you're starting your own Papa just know

2772
02:04:03,350 --> 02:04:00,960
that the cab is here uh anytime we we

2773
02:04:05,689 --> 02:04:03,360
would welcome you to come on and and

2774
02:04:08,149 --> 02:04:05,699
speak about things because really you

2775
02:04:10,310 --> 02:04:08,159
know as usual we we still have questions

2776
02:04:12,169 --> 02:04:10,320
that we didn't even get to answer in

2777
02:04:13,910 --> 02:04:12,179
this forum and and that's just the way

2778
02:04:16,189 --> 02:04:13,920
we like it because that gives an

2779
02:04:19,910 --> 02:04:16,199
opportunity for you guys to come back so

2780
02:04:23,390 --> 02:04:19,920
on behalf of uh Jules and Linda and um

2781
02:04:27,470 --> 02:04:23,400
Anjali John Debs Nathan and my myself

2782
02:04:29,450 --> 02:04:27,480
this is DJ saying peace out one love

2783
02:04:31,189 --> 02:04:29,460
we'll see you down the road

2784
02:04:33,620 --> 02:04:31,199
and we're always wondering what's up